IN or OUT?

Discussion in 'Rules / Tournament Regulation / Officiating' started by kwun, Sep 19, 2004.

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IN or OUT?

  1. IN!

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  2. OUT!

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  1. wood_22_chuck

    wood_22_chuck Regular Member

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    I voted "OUT!"

    I would like the shuttle to be "safely in" to be called in. If it's hairline like in the picture, I wouldn't hesitate to call it out, even if half the cork where on the line, and half was out.

    It would help the hitter, I would think, to adjust his/her strokes to account for draft, irregular shuttle speed etc.

    -dave
     
    #41 wood_22_chuck, Sep 20, 2004
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    In (if I win the point ;) )
     
    #42 Tomsk, Sep 20, 2004
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    i voted in hehe
     
    #43 Infernal, Sep 20, 2004
  4. jump_smash

    jump_smash Regular Member

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    Hey Cooler, hope you have the right half!

    (BTW, I am a qualified Line Judge)

    Comment on IBF test rule change on Umpire over ruling Line Judges?
     
    #44 jump_smash, Sep 20, 2004
  5. kwun

    kwun Administrator

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    *cough* stay in topic. though feel free to start another thread on it... ;)

    so... what's your call, in or out? :)
     
    #45 kwun, Sep 20, 2004
  6. wood_22_chuck

    wood_22_chuck Regular Member

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    He called it in, on the first page :)

    -dave
     
    #46 wood_22_chuck, Sep 20, 2004
  7. kwun

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    ops.............. :eek:
     
    #47 kwun, Sep 20, 2004
  8. jump_smash

    jump_smash Regular Member

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    Sorry.....

    That's okay, yes I called in. Contact with any part of the line is in.
    (noting contact is with the part of shuttle that first contacts the court - the cork)
     
    #48 jump_smash, Sep 20, 2004
  9. Feng_MP-100

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    The picture quality sux. But I think it's IN.
     
    #49 Feng_MP-100, Sep 20, 2004
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    I agree. Out!

    The bird appears closer in due to the camera angle. This is why in sports like rowing or swimming a line is moving line is sometimes superimposed on the action in order to correct for this effect. This is also why line judges sit looking directly down the line, in order to see more clearly.

    Of course, people always make mistakes...
     
    #50 stumblingfeet, Sep 20, 2004
  11. Winex West Can

    Winex West Can Regular Member

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    That's beside the point. The rule is that if the base of the shuttlecock touches any part of the line, it's in. Just because you like to be safely in is not an option :D

    As a linejudge, you need to call the shot as you see it (regardless of whether you think it might be in or out). It's either IN or OUT or you signal unsighted.

    In most rec games, I would give the benefit of the doubt to the opponents.

    I don't understand it. A number of you specify that it should be out regardless of whether the shuttle touches the line or part of the line. The rules are there to be enforced. Can you imagine if you are playing and in the middle of the game, you opponent call you for a fault because they felt like it or felt that they should because that was how they feel without any justification or application of the rules. :)
     
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    well because its still int he air theres always the possiability that it could go out or could land in but the again the angle at which the picture was taken was not parallel to the line so therefore it is hard to tell if it will be in our out at the moment. but then again as long as part of it touches the line its in so i would have to say in.
     
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  13. Feng_MP-100

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    I Call It Outtttttttttt!!!
     
    #53 Feng_MP-100, Sep 20, 2004
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    In - from what I see, the shuttle touches the line.
     
    #55 viver, Sep 20, 2004
  16. wood_22_chuck

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    I think it's ambiguous, and the poll reflects that. You'd call upon some interpretation or past experience to justify how you would call the shot, either in, or out.

    BTW WWC, when can cappy75 and I get a game against you/wwcbro again? Separate thread or PM! :D

    -dave
     
    #56 wood_22_chuck, Sep 20, 2004
  17. prophet

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    I think its in... I mean out.....I mean in.....no, no I think its out.....

    Ok, Ok, out it is :rolleyes: by the narrowest of margins in my mind, the shuttle hits the outside first therefore making it out... whew! :eek:
     
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  18. cooler

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    The picture quality sux. But I think it's IN.

    Hey, u can't have it both ways :rolleyes:
     
    #58 cooler, Sep 20, 2004
  19. paulchow

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    ya its kind of hard to judge when you cant see where the shuttle touches the ground...
     
    #59 paulchow, Sep 20, 2004
  20. cooler

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    errr, that's not the reply an umpire expected to hear from the line judge :rolleyes:
     
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