Hybrid Stringing Method

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by Traum, Feb 12, 2004.

  1. DinkAlot

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    Errrrr...skip for me.
     
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    in tennis this is more of a hot-topic, and everybody seems to experiment with it...
    in badminton there's a lot less, but then: there're more than enough good strings around to suit our needs;)

    though from what I read here, about people that did try, the eventual feel is in between the two strings (not as stiff as 1, not as flexy as the other, etc)
    so if you really have an excessive compulsive disorder of such magnitude that you want your bg85 to last longer, but want bg80 to play better..then you might wanna consider hybrids:p

    otherwise it's just for us goofballs who want white and black strings mixed together:eek:
     
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    why would they?
    mains bg80, crosses bg85...the eventual result will probably be somewhere in between the two...so yes it'll feel different, but why should it feel mixed?

    or do you think the strings will do 12 mains with bg80, tie off. then do 10 mains with bg66 and tie off..start with 15 crosses of bg85, tie off again and finish up with bg68ti?:cool::Dbecause then you'd certainly be right...
     
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    Hmm, I see..............:)
     
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    That sounds like a fly squasher? :confused: :D

     
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    Of course of course:) but 2 kinds of strings are enough for my liking.
     
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    What tension/strings do you use?--hehe for your hybrid stringing?
     
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    New idea: Mix strings.

    I just had a novelty idea. People have been mixing tensions for quite a while now. How bout we mix strings now? Surely that would lessen the breakage rate and maybe even have some funny results. Imagine bg 66 with bg 65. Durability + power. :D
     
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    Your idea isn't so new to me. 2 different strings on one racket is called hybrid stringing.

    Actually I have two different Ashaway strings on my AT700.
     
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    I'm not sure such a big difference in thickness would be good. As the BG-65 is .70 mm and the BG-66 is .66 mm, the BG-65, might wear out and snap the BG-66, as they press against each other when hitting. Then again, the BG-65 would probably prevent parts of the BG-66 from coming in close contact with the shuttle, forming a kind of semi-protective overlay.
     
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    IN Tennis, they have crappy strings....i mean seriously the strings are soooo thick, i dun think it makes a difference between most strings anyways, so they try to hybrid( which i think would be EXTREMELY wierd)
     
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    lol You have clearly never played tennis - why dont you try stringing a tennis racket with any badminton string up to normal tension (about 60lbs). Tennis strings are thick for a reason - higher tensions, Heavier ball, much heavier impact etc pretty obvious. and plus some tennis strings like wilson nxt are only about 1.3 mm compared to badminton strings which are about 0.68 which can only be strung to about 32lbs max (0.68 strings).
     
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    With this, it has a counter to it. That's because BG66 has thinner string, whereas BG65 is a thicker string.

    With the tension issue, it is possible that the tensions can be mixed because there is no problem with it (if there is, tell me :)). That's because it is POSSIBLE to do it.

    What I mean with "counter" is that say for example you have a Communist country running the government, and on the other side you have a Socialist country running the government. In this case, you cannot have both EXTREMES in one country because it's obviously 2 different things.

    Applying to badminton, the difference between BG66 and BG65 is its barrel thickness. And in this case, unfortunately we cannot have 2 barrel thickness in one string (whereas with the string tension, you can have HORIZONTAL and VERTICAL)

    I mean, Nanogy strings have a nice balance of durability and power (repulsion). It's quite thick, but the material of the string is the factor that makes the difference. So, in another way, you can have power + durability combined, although not through changing the barrel thickness...:crying:
     
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    Babolat sells hybrid strings. It makes some kind difference supposedly. I forget what that is.

    As for crossing two different gauge strings, I wouldn't expect more durability. I would probably expect the same amount of durability as the weaker gauge string seeing as how it is the one that will pop first assuming they're both strung at the same tension. (but there's the issue of people popping the mains more than the verticals. Or vice versa.)
     
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    Yup...for example the if you wanted a string with control,power,durability and feel, you could choose a string that has these characteristics<--except this time you can choose two DIFFERENT strings for the mains and the crosses.<--this is for tennis**
     
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    the birdie hits the string and will touch about two vertical and two horizontal. each giving a different repulsion. i think if one string gives a bigger repulsion the other would not be utilized. doesn't sound like this would work =/
     
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    I always thought that the only reason why they would experiment with two different strings in tennis rather than badminton is because the large difference in head sizes when comparing the two different rackets. Maybe with a larger headface it makes more of a difference?:rolleyes:
     
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    Being heavily involved with tennis I'll lend some insight. In tennis, there are two major reasons to hybrid.

    The first is cost. Natural gut for example is extremely expensive. A full set would cost you 30 dollars USD. If you cut in half, and hybrid with a cheap synthetic gut that costs about 3 dollars USD, your cost is now only 18 dollars USD a stringjob. A significant saving, especially if you break a lot of string. As for performance, the mains are what gives you the bulk of the performance, almost 90% of it, so it's not a big sacrifice.

    Also in tennis, it's not like badminton. Even many adults can't do backcourt to backcourt clears in badminton, but in tennis, anybody can knock the ball out of the facilities let alone the court. This gave birth to the popularity of kevlar and polyester strings which are really low powered so you can take a big cut, put a lot of spin without having the ball sail out. The problem is that these strings are extremely stiff and since there is much more shock in tennis, it can give problems. Many players hybrid these polyester strings with softer strings like natural gut, or a soft multifiliament/ synthetic gut.

    I may do an expiriment. I really like Ashaway and it doesn't not cost too much as I string my own racquets, but I think even if I hybrid the cross with some really cheap Hi-Qua string I have, I doubt it'll affect the performance much. I want to try that vs a whole stringjob and see how much difference i notice.
     
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    erm...worth a try. badminton need to be alittle more creative! dosent hurt if theres no difference but certainly turn heads
     
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    I've actually just tried.

    I put BG85 in the mains and Hi-Qua strings on the crosses. Previously my racquet was strung with just Hi-Qua. I definitely noticed the increase in power from the BG85. It was also stiffer but not as much as a full BG85 stringjob.

    Still I would not recommend it unless you're on a budget. Different strings have different properties. If they have a vast difference in tension retaining, then it may damage the structure of your frame.
     

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