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  1. Loh

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    With due respect to Mulyo, he's no mental strength coach. Not professionally trained in sports psychology, there is a limit to what Mulyo can do.

    As I've said TH needs help from a real professional specialist and he must be prepared to accept such a specialist as being able to assist him just as he is prepared to accept Mulyo. If TH thinks nobody else can help him except Mulyo, I'm afraid he will not progress very far from where he is now. :rolleyes:
     
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    I think Mulyo is doing a great job! TH did reach final in JO.. which is still impressive.. Without him TH wouldn't have won in Athens and WC05..
    Lets just wait and see what happen and hope for the best for PBSI... I need indo back into action or else badminton is just meaningless to watch... like PingPong I would say...
     
  3. ctjcad

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    hmm, so, do you think any other "real professional specialist" can *really* help Taufik??..Personally, i think it boils down to Taufik himself...Like Simp84 said above, if Taufik can win the OG and WC(with or withouth "luck") with Mulyo, why can't he do the same/continue his success now??..Is Mulyo's approach "outdated" or "useless" now??..Is Mulyo maybe not "pushing" Taufik anymore to maximize his potentials; instead defended Taufik by saying "he's won the OG and WC already, no need for TH to have any motivation to pursue or be burden with keep winning again etc2"..:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

    BTW, babonimut, thanks for the translation.:).mind doing the other one also??..thx-;):cool:
     
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    A coach can only do so much. They have their limitation. Once you are a PRO. You are already equipped with whatever knowledge and skills to play on court. It all boils down to the player. But we also have to admit that we cannot win all the time. Definately there are players who are playing better than us that day.
     
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    Post #14 translation


    Joko Rebelled

    Written by Jawa Pos
    Monday 16 October 2006
    (translated by flikflak)

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    Joko refused to handle Women's singles and resigned from Cipayung.


    Cipayung National Training Centre heated up. After Men's doubles player Sigit Budiarto had resigned from that #1 National Badminton training centre, yesterday Men's singles coach Joko Suprianto did the same decision.

    "I'm no longer Cipayung's coach, I have quitted", Joko said to Jawa Pos yesterday.

    Why Joko quit? The man from Solo, Central Java, felt that his existence in Cipayung is marginalized by some of his fellow coaches and training centre officials. In a meeting at PBSI General Chief (Sutiyoso) office, without any clear reason and discussion before, Joko was suddenly being concluded to coach women's singles.

    "The Head of Training and Achievements Sector (Rudy Hartono), never talked to me about this problem. I couldn't accept such decision, because of that, I chose to quit" Joko said.

    To fill the empty position left by Joko, Hendrawan who previously mentored women's singles, will be switched to Men's Singles. Hendrawan's previous position will be replaced by his assistant, Sandiarto.

    Ever since he was still an active player, Joko felt that there was a conflict of interest among some elites in Cipayung. When Icuk Sugiarto left the training centre some years ago to become a professional staff for National Sport Ministry, since that day, Joko had sensed his career in Cipayung would only need to wait for time to come.

    "I had sensed it since long ago that I was targetted to quit Cipayung. This is the peak of that matter." Joko admitted.

    Meanwhile, Rudy states that the decision regarding Joko's mutation to women's singles is purposedly to help raising the national badminton's achievements. All this time, Joko was marked incapable of producing champions in Men's Singles sector.

    "By giving him a new atmosphere at women's singles, we hoped the better from Joko. But he just resigned instead. We couldn't force him because he had admitted that he was tired." Rudy explained.

    However, PBSI decision regarding Joko's mutation to women's singles left a few questions. Currently in fallen sector like Women's Doubles, actually a competent coach should be hired. If Joko was marked less successful to produce champions all this time, actually PBSI should consider that such decision would only make Women's Doubles slumped even more.

    Joko's mutation indeed seems a bit like "sweeping away". In fact, PBSI should dare to take a strict action to fire him if indeed he was assumed to have no achievements (as a coach). Reward system and punishment must be done transparently, so that every Cipayung inhabitants will have a big responsibility over their task.

    Even PBSI officials shouldn't only be smart when complaining. They should be more focused in giving attention to coaches and players at training centre. Rudy who has the biggest responsibility to produce a champion, very rarely visits the training centre. In one month, it is not certain whether he would have a visit there.
     
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    flikflak, thanks for doing the translation..;)
     
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    No worries. :eek:

    The words in bold showed how people are really really unproffesional and nothing good comes from it.
     
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    We thank babonimut and flikflak for the translations.

    Greetings,

    Yes, we thank babonimut and flikflak for the translations.

    It doesn't look like Cipayung is a happy place at the moment.

    And in the China Open 2006, just hours ago;
    Simon Santosa(ranked 22) narrowly lost his match to Lu Qi Cheng (CHN) 21-14, 19-21, 18-21, although
    Taufik Hidayat had an easier win over Chan Io Chong (MAC, ranked 165) 21-15, 21-10.

    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
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    Umm... When he's in the right frame of mind, I only see LCW and LD as potential challenges...
     
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    come on INA we are waiting to watch the best frm u guys like last time again.... hope either INA or MAS win the next TC.. win CHINA!!!
     
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    Change coach doesnt mean anything.... Rotten Cipayung...
     
  13. ctjcad

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    don't know if mods want to move this thread to the Professional Players sub-forum??..:confused:
     
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    just in case any translation required, pls feel free to pm me. i'd be more than happy to try to help as much as i could. cheers...
     
  15. ctjcad

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    Off topic..

    ..we think you need to visit BC/BF more; not just on special request(translation).;).as it could be on first come first serve basis and we want to keep it open to anyone(that understands Indonesian, of course)..hehe;) :rolleyes: :) :D
     
  16. chris-ccc

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    babonimut translating Indonesian into English

    Hi babonimut,

    Thanks... and could you please translate this 18-Oct-2006 Report for us? :):):)

    Cheers... chris@ccc

    ====== start report ======

    Sutiyoso: Saatnya Taufik Berubah

    JAKARTA, RABU - Menyusul kegagalan pemain tunggal putra Indonesia, Taufik Hidayat, dalam turnamen Jepang Terbuka, Ketua Umum PB PBSI Sutiyoso menyatakan saatnya pemain andalan Indonesia itu berubah.

    Dalam sebuah acara yang berlangsung di Jakarta, Selasa malam, Sutiyoso menyatakan perubahan itu harus dilakukan melalui pembenahan kemampuan fisik yang memang selama ini selalu menjadi masalah utama Taufik Hidayat. "Saya tahu persis titik lemahnya dia itu ada di fisik. Kenapa? Karena kalau main hingga tiga set tidak pernah menang. Dia harus segera sadar kelemahan itu," katanya.

    Dalam partai final Jepang Terbuka yang berlangsung Minggu (15/10), Taufik Hidayat kembali menyerah dari andalan China, Lin Dan, dalam pertarungan tiga set 16-21 21-16 21-3.

    Skor pada set ketiga dimana Taufik tertinggal jauh juga menjadi perhatian Sutiyoso. "Taufik sebenarnya unggul teknik, namun kalau sudah terkait fisik kan susah. Terbukti dari set penentuan dia tertinggal sedemikian jauh," ungkap Sutiyoso.

    Sementara tentang pembenahan untuk sektor tunggal putra, PB PBSI telah melakukan pergantian pelatih yang menangani sejumlah pemain. "Untuk pelatih, Joko Supriyanto akan saya geser dan diganti oleh Hendrawan dan akan saya suruh melatih Simon dan Taufik, karena dua pemain itu belum ada kemajuan," tutur Sutiyoso.

    Sumber: Antara
    Penulis: Ima

    ====== end report ======
     
  17. babonimut

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    translated article...

    Sutiyoso: It's time for Taufik to change

    Jakarta, Wednesday - Following Indonesian men's single failure, Taufik Hidayat, in Japan Open, Chief of Indonesian Badminton Association Sutiyoso stated that it was time for the top Indonesian player to change.

    In a function held at Jakarta on Tuesday evening, Sutiyoso said the change had to be realised through the improvement in stamina which has always been the main problem for Taufik Hidayat. "I know very well his main weakness point is his stamina. Why? Because if the game stretches to 3 sets he never won. He must fully realise his weakness," said Sutiyoso.

    In the final of Japan open on Sunday (15/10), Taufik Hidayat fell to Lin Dan, the top seeded player of China in 3 sets 16-21 21-16 21-3.

    The third set's score line where Taufik was left way far behind has also been the focus of Sutiyoso's concern. "Taufik is actually stronger technically, but when it comes stamina he falters. This is evident from the deciding game where he was left so far behind," Sutiyoso revealed.

    In he mean time, Indonesian Badminton Association has restructured coaches who handled several players to improve the men's singles sector. "For coach, I will replace Joko Supriyanto with Hendrawan and I shall instruct Hendrawan to train Simon and Taufik, because those two players have not shown significant improvement," uttered Sutiyoso.

    Source: Antara
    Writer: Ima
    Translated by babonimut
     
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    Thanks for the translation...

    babonimut, thx for doing the translation(rest of translation snipped for brevity)...you should visit this forum as well, in case there's a need for doing translation(s)..;):rolleyes: :) :D :cool:

    BTW, thx chris@ccc for bringing the article(all the way from another thread) into this thread so babonimut could translate for us...;)
     
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    Post#30 of this thread posted by taufik 4eva

    Hi ctjcad,

    No, the article was from Post#30 of this thread posted by taufik 4eva. It's from kompas.com
    Link = http://www.kompas.com/ver1/Olahraga/0610/18/093724.htm

    We want to thank babonimut again for the translations. :):):)

    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
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    no problem, dudes.. any time.. :)
     

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