Has LCW won any 1st tier tournaments?

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cooler said:
yes, your fren is technically correct but u have to look at how lcw won the 2010 AE.
All the stars and planets lined up that week for lcw.
u see,
- lcw didn't played any chinese players LD, BCL and chen jin.
- tago did all the dirty work for lcw, beating chen jin and bcl.
- ld being generous, let bcl beat him
- the line judge lost his vision at the MS final match point lah;)
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Haha wow...I just watched the last AE point on youtube and you're right! That last point was CLEARLY OUT! And it was a close game too!

Thanks for pointing that out cooler:rolleyes:
 
badadum said:
The critics of LCW used to say that Dato hasn't won any "major" tournament. Just like LD was getting dished by the fact that he never won OG title (until 08).

Now that he has won the AE, the excuse will switch to AE is not a "tier 1" tournament? Interesting, yet the argument ring hollow.

Just to show ppl will always find fault regardless on one's achievement.
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so who is the detractor saying AE is not tier 1 or major tournament?
well, it's not me, AE had existed before IBF/BWF, TC/UC, WC and OG.
 
cooler said:
yes, your fren is technically correct but u have to look at how lcw won the 2010 AE.
All the stars and planets lined up that week for lcw.
u see,
- lcw didn't played any chinese players LD, BCL and chen jin.
- tago did all the dirty work for lcw, beating chen jin and bcl.
- ld being generous, let bcl beat him
- the line judge lost his vision at the MS final match point lah;)
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Hmm now that I think about it, LCW had never beaten LD in a Major before :eek:
 
limsy said:
as the answer is there(the answer is no)
i think the thread should be closed to avoid some post like number 36 which totally irrelevant to the thread title
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didn't u read comments from your countrymen that closing thread would only deny the rights of others to make objective posts?
 
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Topspin said:
Hmm now that I think about it, LCW had never beaten LD in a Major before :eek:
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not exactly, LD did lost to lcw in 2008 TC but china won the TC anyway, it's no big deal.
btw, LD lost to lcw because his goal was to peak at 08 OG AND his gf XXF was playing on adjacent court, want to see how she was doing.
 
cooler said:
so who is the detractor saying AE is not tier 1 or major tournament?
well, it's not me, AE had existed before IBF/BWF, TC/UC, WC and OG.
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The one who started this thread is a good example.


Topspin said:
Hmm now that I think about it, LCW had never beaten LD in a Major before
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So you going back on your own word:
Topspin said:
So in conclusion, the tier one tournaments in badminton are:
OG, WC, TC, UC, and SC
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???

Make up your mind boy.
 
cooler said:
didn't u read comments from your countrymen that closing thread would only deny the rights of other to make objective posts?
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Absolutely right cooler, I don't know about other places, but here in Canada, we have the "freedom of speech", so closing a thread simply because my idea doesn't go well with others is more like...a violation in freedom of speech :mad:
 
cooler said:
not exactly, LD did lost to lcw in 2008 TC but china won the TC anyway, it's no big deal.
btw, LD lost to lcw because his goal was to peak at 08 OG AND his gf XXF was playing on adjacent court, want to see how she was doing.
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I meant to say LCW never beaten LD in an individual major event because apparently ppl here tell me that it's not fair to measure a player's ability in team events;)
 
look interesting now
while slowly understanding the situation here
hehe
expect to have more drama to watch as someone found a alliance here
hehe
time to leave this thread and watch my movie
see ya
 
Topspin said:
I meant to say LCW never beaten LD in an individual major event because apparently ppl here tell me that it's not fair to measure a player's ability in team events;)
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So we're back to AE being a major individual event then, mr. confused canuck newbie?
 
badadum said:
So we're back to AE being a major individual event then, mr. confused canuck newbie?
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I always agreed that AE is a major, for the topic of the thread, I was asking if AE was considered a tier one event, which I wasn't sure at the time.
 
Topspin, welcome to the forum.

I hope you are not someone else using newly created Login ID but it looks kinda suspicious though.

Anyway, what titles won by LCW has already been addressed by our fellow members here. Make your own conclusion as it is very subjective since we don't classify badminton tourneys by tier. I can say All England is tier 1 but you might disagree with me but that doesn't deny the fact that LCW has won All England. Regarding the final point, I, as a Malaysian, felt sorry for his opponent. But hey, LCW did not cheat for the title. 10 or 20 years later, nobody will remember how he won it.
 
robin7 said:
Topspin, welcome to the forum.

I hope you are not someone else using newly created Login ID but it looks kinda suspicious though.

Anyway, what titles won by LCW has already been addressed by our fellow members here. Make your own conclusion as it is very subjective since we don't classify badminton tourneys by tier. I can say All England is tier 1 but you might disagree with me but that doesn't deny the fact that LCW has won All England. Regarding the final point, I, as a Malaysian, felt sorry for his opponent. But hey, LCW did not cheat for the title. 10 or 20 years later, nobody will remember how he won it.
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Hey robin,

I agree that LCW didn't "cheat" to win the title. It's not his fault the linesman made a poor judgment. And you're right, in 10 or 20 years, nobody will remember how he won it.

But I do sort of feel sorry for LCW because even though he didn't cheat, deep down his heart he (and his die-hard fans) will always have a slight doubt that he truly deserved the AE trophy due to the poor judgment by the linesman at such a crucial point of the game.
 
unlike 20 years ago, in our next 10 or 20, we have youtube or something even better.
If the naive ones dunno, someone is already tracking how many toilet papers u have bought, unless one still live in a third world country
with no computer, cellphones, etc..
 
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cooler said:
unlike 20 years ago, in our next 10 or 20, we have youtube or something even better.
If the naive ones dunno, someone is already tracking how many toilet papers u have bought, unless one still live in a third world country
with no cellphones, etc..
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You're right actually....sadly the videos of LCW's final point at AE 2010 will never go off the internet...

Sometimes I feel sad for LCW :(
 
Topspin said:
You're right actually....sadly the videos of LCW's final point at AE 2010 will never go off the internet...

Sometimes I feel sad for LCW :(
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don't feel sad, lcw still have 1.5 years to prove up himself and rack up some major titles before he retires. Just cross your fingers;)
 
robin7 said:
Topspin, welcome to the forum.

But hey, LCW did not cheat for the title. 10 or 20 years later, nobody will remember how he won it.
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just for the record, it was Robin7 himself who pointed out to me recently that Liu Jun of china beat Zhao JH of china because LYB fixed the 1992 All England MS final match. Jeez, how come he can remember thing like this happened 18 years ago? Preferential memory retention and retrieval system?? Cool
 
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