Flypower Enigma 900 and Vigor 700, Kido's and Hendra's new racquets

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  1. alana07

    alana07 Regular Member

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    this one for SS with inputs from LM?
     
  2. Yoppy

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    is SS sponsored by Flypower??
     
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    Anyone knows where to get these in Jakarta or Singapore? Very nice design, a step up from (pardon me) typical Indonesian rackets, but doesn't the label 'used by Kido' means that it WAS used by Kido? :p And can i know what the balance is? (or translate 'ZENITH ASYMETRIC SYSTEM' for me) Oh, while also anyone can explain elastic firm?
     
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    'zenith assymetric system' means the balance is at 300+-5mm
    'elastic firm' means the max bent of the shaft is between 8.3-8.6mm
    '4F' means that the racket weighs 86+-2gr
    These 'stand-out' terms purposedly designed to be 'different' than internationally (well)known specs by yonex etc
    any other question? ;D
     
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    Wow, thanks a lot, seems like you know a lot about the racket, but i wish that the racket maker standardize all the specs they will use, such as writing headlight- medium or head heavy, really confuses n00bs like me :p And by 8.3-8.6 mm, does it mean its has mid flex or stiff? Pardon my inability to understand something out of the more commonly used terms :D
     
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    It just happen that I know people who decided to use these terms for their new-gen rackets; just to make things a little more complicated for us :).
    Anyhow, here is the breakup of the full spec (should have written in the 1st place):
    BALANCE
    300+-5mm zenith assymetry system
    290+-5mm sharp symetry system
    280+-5mm base symetry system
    SHAFT FLEX
    7.8-8.0 firm
    8.1-8.3 firm elastic
    8.3-8.6 elastic firm
    8.6-9.0 elastic
    WEIGHT
    88+-2gr 3F
    86+-2gr 4F
    82+-2gr 5F
    Anything else you need to know about Flypower products, just give me a shout. I'll try my best to find the answers...:)
     
  7. aramistuscany

    aramistuscany Regular Member

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    Thanks heaps dm8988 for this invaluable info :). This is new to me too.
     
  8. Menza

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    I'm sorry if this is out of topic, but could anyone share some information about the difference between Warriors 7 & 8, and those Tornados (700, 800, 900), the feel, stiffness, balance, weight, etc? I'm getting one, but don't know which one to go for. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Weight wise, they are all the same; 85+-2gr.
    Tornado700, 900 and Warrior7 BPs at 300+-7
    Tornado800 and Warrior8 BPs at 295+-7
    I believe that the Warriors has stiffer frame than the Tornados (got no written spec on this).
    Tor700 made of HMGraphite; the rest are made of Woven Graphite.
    Bottom line, if you are more into attacking player then go with the Tornados; Warriors are more suitable for drive and control players.
    Or... you can always get more than 1 and use which ever suits you best on that particular game ;D
     
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    Thanks for the reply, it's really helpful. I play double, more of an attacking player, but still want some balance. I guess Tornado 800 is the one I'm looking for. Thanks again.
     
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    you cant go wrong with either the Tornado 800 or Enigma 900.
     
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    I have questions about the material though. From the pictures of Enigma and Vigor, I can't see "Woven Tech" wirtten on the rackets. Are they using Woven Tech?
    And about the Tornado 800, "Woven Carbon Tech" on the frame, "Woven Graphite" on the shaft. Is it the same material and technology used like in the Warriors series (Woven Tech written on the shaft)?
     
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    both T800 and E900 are all fully woven rackets, frame and shaft.
     
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    woven is not material ... but kind of technology.
    you can use any kind of carbon-fibre and make it to be Woven = anyaman ...
     
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    Hi,

    I wonder how the Enigma 900 compares to YY AT900P and Victor SW35. Is the balance and stiffness similar? And how well does the frame hold with high tensions (31 lbs) and clashes? Prices anyone?

    Thanks!
     
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    Enigma 900 is a little bit more flexible than AT900P. Balance is about the same. Power is also about the same. The frame should be able to handle 31 lbs easily. However I can feel more vibrations in the Enigma compared to the AT900P. May be annoying to some people. RRP is around S$180.
     
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    hi there.. can u tell me about the differences between tornado 800 & warriors 7 with enigma & vigor? i have both tornado 800 & warriors 7 but i would like to have enigma and vigor too but im not sure whether both rackets have the same specs with tornADO 800 & warriors 7... any info on this? :)

     
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    The only thing in common, they all made of woven carbon.
    Tor800: w 85gr, Bp 295mm
    War7: w 85gr, Bp 300mm
    Enigma: w 88gr, Bp 300mm, flex 8.5mm
    Vigor: w 86gr, Bp 290mm, flex 8.5 mm
    note: weighs are +-2gr, Bps +-5mm, flex +-2mm
    unfortunately, I have no written spec on Tor800 and War7 flexibility. I think (based on my opinion) War7 and Vigor are stiffer then Tor800. I did try the Enigma, it is the hardest to play with. Maybe just because I'm not used to the weight.
    Vigor feels like in between of Tor800 and War7; its easy to play with, and generates more power on my smash compared to the War7.
    Hope it helps...
     
  19. TheSmasherKing

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    thanx for the info... im looking forward to buy both rackets... but the rackets still havent reach my area... i prefer hold the racket first before i decide to buy it.. anyway, ur info if really appreciated... :)
     
  20. dm8988

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    Hi smasherking, mind getting more specific which part of earth are you located?
    Maybe able to narrow down your search
    ;D
     

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