Do you think China has given up putting Chen Jin in the top 4 of the Mens Singles?

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  1. xxdomination

    xxdomination Regular Member

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    Do you think that China has given up hope to put Chen Jin in the top 4 for the Olympics?
     
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    Chen Jin

    No, i don't think because Chen Jin has only little gap to overtake no. 4 so they should still put effort though.
     
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    If Chen Jin becomes number 4, isn't there a chance that CJ will be drawn with LCW, while LD and CL are drawn together?
     
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    Yes, i think so. Sorry for not to research any further, but i remember that no 1 (LCW) should take against no. 4 while no. 2 will take against no. 3. In this case, for a more prudent, CHN should try to push LD to be no.1 so that he can avoid CL who has more chance than CJ (to beat LCW).

    Any possibility LD to try to overtake LCW as no.1 ? Is it too late now?
     
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    No not late I think since there is still the Thomas Cup, The All England and the Djarum Indonesia Open which I think LD will participate in. But I'm not sure if there are points awarded to the Thomas Cup. Anyone know if points are awarded to the Thomas Cup?
     
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    The Djarum indonesia open is after qualifying ends. There is the All England and India open superseries.
     
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    If Lin Dan re wins German Open And wins ALL England and india open even if LCW came second Lin dan will still take number one spot by 1000points.
     
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    if LD wins the AE and India SS he will overtake LCW as World No 1 and No 1 seed for the London Olympics, no matter what results LCW will get.

    wonder if he knew!
     
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    the rule stated that the 1st and 2nd ranked from the same nation shall be drawn in opposite halves.
    so, if LCW stay at No 1, there is a 50/50 chance he will play LD at SF.
    the only one LCW can avoid at SF is Chen Jin if he qualify.
     
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    but the silly thing is there is no point for LD being No 1 as far as the Olympics is concerned, or LCW for that matter.
    because LD and CL will have to draw lot to decide which halves they will be in.

    Lets say we have another MAS, say HH qualify as No 2.

    So, we have 1-LCW, 2-HH, 3-LD and 4-CL.

    The rule say that LCW and HH to draw lot to decide who will be in 1st and 4th quarter, then LD and CL to draw again to decide who will be in the 2nd and 3rd quarter.

    how silly is that!
     
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    yeah. but Lin Dan playing India Open? i don't see that happening and nor has it ever happened...
     
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    But if he win the AE and by the end of april one final push at the India will be back at no 1, why not?
     
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    didn't you already answered that in post #10? plus the fact that LD doesn't really care about world ranking besides qualifying for the Olympics.
     
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    What do you mean draw lot? if LD number 2 then he is on opposite side of draw than number 1 (LCW) right? What do you mean by 50/50 chance of meeting LD in semi??
     
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    because if one nation with more than one player qualified, according to the Olympics rules they have to draw to determine each halves they will be in
     
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    Just had a look at the rules and your correct it states "drawn by lot" regardless of ranking when 2 or more qualify. This is insanely stupid!! If you had one player ranked 16 in the world and the other ranked 1 same country that would "mean draw by lot" and rank 1 could be in same side as rank 2 whilst rank 16 on the different side and seeding would be ammended number 16 in the world becoming seed 1!!!! Surely they can't be that brainless.
     
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    Lin Dan will be top seed in German open while CJ is 2nd seed.

    Peter Gade not playing.

    We will see whether China has given up during German Open.
     
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    the only reason for CHN to go through the TU preliminary is for Chen jin.
    Given up? Not a chance
     
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    I mean if LD meeting CJ in German Open final, LD should let CJ win. But what if CHN lets LD play and beat CJ ?
     
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    Can somebody tell/explain to me why the heck China is playing in the qualifiers ? Aren't they defending champions who receive automatic qualification to the finals ???

    Or are they lowering themselves as a qualifiers just to let Chen Jin earn mini/trivial points to close in on Gade ???
     

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