Danisa Denmark Open 2017 (October 17-22, 2017)

[Desireless]

English speaking skills are very variable in HK. I noticed the reading skills are very strong. Writing , listening and speaking skills are weaker.

The other thing is many better educated HKers have migrated abroad over the decades and that group tend to have better english language skills.

Just watched the XD final...that post-match interview was a travesty.

First off, both HK players definitely speak Cantonese, and most likely English as well. The fact that Suet was struggling to put together a sentence in mandarin shows that it’s not her first language, and likely Tang’s mandarin was even worse, hence him declining to speak.

What I’m guessing is more like they were told by their sports administration to only conduct official interviews in Mandarin. Otherwise they would have had a Cantonese interpreter, or just spoken English. What a back-handed slap in the face.

 

[Baddyforall]

The umpire is from India right haha so i can understand.

What? You must be kidding me. This is simply unbelievable. Hating some country becomes some norm and inevitable today?

Let us just stick to the topic instead of giving some unnecessary judgements. This behaviour is totally uncalled for.

 

[nilesh123]

What? You must be kidding me. This is simply unbelievable. Hating some country becomes some norm and inevitable today?

Let us just stick to the topic instead of giving some unnecessary judgements. This behaviour is totally uncalled for.

Chill I am sure he was "trying to be humorous" (completely failed ) with reference to members here or something of personal incident

 

[badmuse]

What? You must be kidding me. This is simply unbelievable. Hating some country becomes some norm and inevitable today?

Let us just stick to the topic instead of giving some unnecessary judgements. This behaviour is totally uncalled for.

It's a misunderstanding! @Yoji just meant the Indian umpire wanted to wrap up quickly to watch an Indian play. It was said in humour and he was trying to be friendly. Earlier he also said, he wished some other countries like India wins in doubles.

 

[swsh]

I find a few umpires quite chivies as well. There's also that lady from England (I think she was in Sindhu vs Okuhara) that manages to sway my point of focus from the players onto her sometimes. I personally don't care one bit about who is sitting in the chair and I definitely didn't tune in for them so I'd rather them intervene less than more unless something absurd was going down. (mild rant on strict umpiring from a casual viewer)

Extremely happy for Srikanth. This after the win over axelsen has to be a massive boost in confidence for him in all of their future encounters I reckon. Future of MS looks more brighter than I thought after WC and Japan Open. As for LHI, what a tournament from him. Wow.

 

[paroxysmal]

I believe Lee Hyun Il is a spent force before the final, the semifinal yesterday with Son Wan Ho probably depleted most of his remaining energy.

I think rather than stamina, it was more with reading Srikanth's shots. I dont think LHI was tired. It's just that his anticipation fell short and depends on it quite a lot. Nonetheless, a fabulous week of badminton.. Credits to both the finalists. Well played LHI. Wishing to see more of you before you retire.

 

[pcll99]

Just watched the XD final...that post-match interview was a travesty.

First off, both HK players definitely speak Cantonese, and most likely English as well. The fact that Suet was struggling to put together a sentence in mandarin shows that it’s not her first language, and likely Tang’s mandarin was even worse, hence him declining to speak.

What I’m guessing is more like they were told by their sports administration to only conduct official interviews in Mandarin. Otherwise they would have had a Cantonese interpreter, or just spoken English. What a back-handed slap in the face.

I think it is quite hard to find a Cantonese-to-English interpreter in Odense, whether for free or otherwise. So they have to make do with a Mandarin-to-English interpreter.

 

[Hassefar60]

Boe not satisfied with service judge.

Nope, he does not. She called 8 service faults on him at European Games. No other service judge comes close and no one else called a single service fault on him in that tournament.

are those traditional Danish gown dress or something at the prize ceremony?

I don't think so and I certainly don't hope so. I think it's an attempt to make something fairy tale ish dress because Odense is the birth city of Hans Christian Andersen.

Question:
Zhang Nan has only 4 out of 5 stars in his China team jersey. What is he missing?
Lin Dan, Cai Yun, Fu Haifeng, etc. have 5. I think Zhang Nan has done all in his fields (MD, XD) what those aforementioned three have done in theirs.

It can only be Thomas Cup. He was on the winning team in 2010 but only played one match, which was insignificant, against Peru in the group stages. He was not on the team in 2012. He has won everything else.

 

[Cheung]

I think it is quite hard to find a Cantonese-to-English interpreter in Odense, whether for free or otherwise. So they have to make do with a Mandarin-to-English interpreter.

Or speak in English which they were not comfortable with.

I'd guess that Tang is less proficient in languages and has had less experience doing interviews.

 

[samkool]

Question:

Zhang Nan has only 4 out of 5 stars in his China team jersey. What is he missing?
Lin Dan, Cai Yun, Fu Haifeng, etc. have 5. I think Zhang Nan has done all in his fields (MD, XD) what those aforementioned three have done in theirs.

i believe it's also a team vote..."who do we look up to as a team leader..." a sign of respect...

 

[renbo]

Or speak in English which they were not comfortable with.

I'd guess that Tang is less proficient in languages and has had less experience doing interviews.

Maybe they were shy, so when asked if they wanted Chinese interpreter they said yes, perhaps without realizing it was mandarin

 

[Cheung]

Maybe they were shy, so when asked if they wanted Chinese interpreter they said yes, perhaps without realizing it was mandarin

Not realising it was Mandarin? Nah.

 

[renbo]

I mean, I have experienced that some people call all dialects "Chinese" (and correctly so). For example, the Chinese University is "Chinese" or 中文. It does not stipulate which dialects. So maybe the danish organiser said to the player "do you want Chinese interpreter?" and they said yes without thinking too much

 

[trackwhack]

SS singles titles in 2017 so far
India - 6
Taiwan - 3
Denmark - 2
Japan - 2
Malaysia, China, Thailand, Spain, Indonesia - 1

These must be difficult days for @Justin L seeing Indians at the top and China at the bottom.

Just saying.

 

[Master]

Out of the 4 MS oldies still playing, in order of form it should be:
1) Lin Dan
2)Lee Hyun il
3)Lee Chong Wei
4)Sony Dwi Kuncoro

Mark Zwiebler, Wei Nan and Hu Yun should be added there

 

[Yoji]

SS singles titles in 2017 so far
India - 6
Taiwan - 3
Denmark - 2
Japan - 2
Malaysia, China, Thailand, Spain, Indonesia - 1

These must be difficult days for @Justin L seeing Indians at the top and China at the bottom.

Just saying.

Well the thing with China is even 4 or 5 Singles SS titles is considered failure with the rosters they have (LD CL still playing) but with 1. Some players should just retire.

 

[Baddyforall]

SS singles titles in 2017 so far
India - 6
Taiwan - 3
Denmark - 2
Japan - 2
Malaysia, China, Thailand, Spain, Indonesia - 1

These must be difficult days for @Justin L seeing Indians at the top and China at the bottom.

Just saying.

This is an open forum where people can express constructive criticism in order to see our sport growing all over the world and to gather all the like minded people in terms of badminton. Let us not take anything personally . The goal should be to spread this sport to even the remote areas of Africa. Not to spread hatred.
India did improve in singles area. But still long long way to go in doubles . China is doing extremely well in those areas. We should respect them.
Hope somebody sketch the statistics of doubles titles as well.




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[Cheung]

I mean, I have experienced that some people call all dialects "Chinese" (and correctly so). For example, the Chinese University is "Chinese" or 中文. It does not stipulate which dialects. So maybe the danish organiser said to the player "do you want Chinese interpreter?" and they said yes without thinking too much

I am quite doubtful. I have a feeling they were given a choice and chose the stronger language which was Mandarin.

In daily life, they don't get to use English despite being an 'official' language. Also, if they were good enough to have learnt English to a good conversational level , probably their other school subjects would have been pretty good and they would not have chosen badminton as a career. That is just the mindset of how local Hkers view career choices. Just to emphasize, this is not an attempt to criticise nor demean them.

 

[Baddyforall]

I am quite doubtful. I have a feeling they were given a choice and chose the stronger language which was Mandarin.

In daily life, they don't get to use English despite being an 'official' language. Also, if they were good enough to have learnt English to a good conversational level , probably their other school subjects would have been pretty good and they would not have chosen badminton as a career. That is just the mindset of how local Hkers view career choices. Just to emphasize, this is not an attempt to criticise nor demean them.

Do you mean that badminton is the final destination if nothing goes well as their career options?
If so, Badminton has a long long long way to go.


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[lodoss]

Yes, Intanon's stamina is now better than I expected or, should I say, not as bad as I thought

I felt she slimmed down liao.