China will NOT attend Super Series Finals

Discussion in 'Super Series Final 2007' started by apontoh, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. Wong8Egg

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    May the please admin remove this post? This post is completely off topic and pointless. I find this (so call statement) is very insulting and provoking to the Chinese fans. :mad:
     
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    Agreed and understood, but it is still sad news for the fans. Which the top badminton nation is absent from the first year SS final.

    BWF probably needs more communication with team's coach and players before scheduling for the future years, 14 world class event year round is not realistic by any means.
     
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    posts removed and user banned.
     
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    It's good news of course for others to grab huge money and win title but this SS Final will be losing of interest because like or dislike CHN is the superpower in badminton world right now. Just imagine World Cup without Brazil or Germany, certainly there's something missing...

    Yeah, Beijing OG is everything for CHN including their badminton squad as one of China gold priority sport.
     
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    the Super Series is still relatively new and BWF has not really made it a desirable tournament to play in except for the prize money. prize money is usually a good incentive for countries to attend but unfortunately they happened to bump into Olympics qualification year. as a result, badminton countries who have exhausted player and don't have too much incentive for the prize money probably will not attend.
     
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    Not true. There is a 2 player per country limit in the SS Finals and member association chooses which 2.

    Exactly, hau-ge! ;)

    What Hau-ge wrote is 100% accurate. Oh well... You're not the only one dissapointed... :p
     
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    LYB is smart.....he knows how to deal with HOT POTATO.....he won't take it when it's still HOT.....
     
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    plus that the final SS event is not well organized.

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    Finale to badminton Super Series in chaos

    Wednesday • November 21, 2007

    The finale to world badminton's flagship Super Series has been thrown into chaos after host Qatar failed to live up to its obligations and second choice Malaysia was ruled out as an alternative.

    This week's China Masters and next week's Hong Kong Open will bring to an end a successful inaugural year for the Badminton World Federation's (BWF) Super Series circuit.

    It is due to culminate in the Masters Final in Qatar from December 18-23 but the gas-rich nation failed to get enough sponsorship to underpin the event.

    The alternative venue, Alor Star in Malaysia, has also been ruled out as the dates clash with the Hari Raya Haji, a Muslim ceremony celebrating the Haj pilgrimage.

    "BWF has been advised that the finals were planned for December 18-23 in Qatar but have now been advised a switch of date and venue is necessary," said chair of BWF's events committee Anne Smillie.

    "We have been advised that the anticipated sponsorship from Qatar, which would have underpinned the Masters, has not been achieved and Alor Star has been put forward as an alternative venue.

    "But the proposed new dates of December 18-22 will not be possible because Malaysia's religious ceremony of Hari Raya Haji falls on December 20."

    She said the federation remained in "close and urgent" discussions with Qatar to try to resolve the problems.

    BWF executive deputy president Punch Gunalan added: "We are delighted with the success of the first 10 tournaments in this new 12-event circuit.

    "Naturally BWF is aware of the frustration of our member associations regarding the Super Series Masters Final. We would like to stress that we are working hard to ensure the tournament proceeds and that all the players who qualify for the Masters have adequate time to prepare."

    The BWF revamped its tour this year to create the Super Series, reducing the seeds for major tournaments to eight and the number of players in the main draw to 32.

    They also changed the rules so that players from the same country can be in the same half of the draw, in an attempt to make the game more competitive. — AFP
     
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    Given the CO outcome,CHN players unlikely to win any of the titles except WD.No show means no loss of face.LYB's reason for overplaying his team is ridiculous.The top players play the pretty much same number of tournaments. Actually LCW plays more than LD because of PO and TPO.
    LYB conning and cunning as usual to the media.
     
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    Players are not required to compete in every tournament. They can pick and choose, so what's the problem?
     
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    Top badminton nation? We're dealing with the top 8 in each event and each country is limited to 2 per event anyway.CHN absent? No loss in quality except WD.No problem with me.The top players deserve to have their share of end of season bonus.No player should be deprived of that because of CHN's shame.
     
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    Banned without warning?
     
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    nah. he was warned.
     
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    An easy way for BWF to solve this issue would just be to award big ranking points on the SS finals.. Then it would hurt CHNs OG plans to not participate..

    /Twobeer
     
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    also hurt Mr. Big Event taufik too:p
     
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    it's a good idea, but it's too late to be adding it now. it would make it extremely unfair to the chinese team, and imo show it's bias against the chinese team. im not trying to whine or anything, but you have to keep with the rules. you cant be changing the rules as you go.

    for example, what would happen if BWF made the announcement 1 month prior to the OG saying that a country can send 4 players each or something like that
     
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    I can't see how it would be unfair to the chineese team.. they could still change their mind and participate in the finals..

    You could even argue, that it is unfair that the Chineese players skip the tournament and therefore gets more rest than the other pros before OG..as the other pro's need the money, and team china don't care about the money, just the OG medals..

    Even better only 1 player per country, haha :p

    /T
     
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    CHina is not the only nations who participate in OG next year, top players from MAS ; KOREA; INA ; DENMARK for example also join in almost ALL the SS events so far.
    So, do that meants the others players doesn't need a rest or that simply meants the others have much more great stamina to sustain compare with the Chinese players???
    BWF should never let a single nation to overrule their decision of staging the SS finals..
     
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    you're missing the point i think.

    MAS, KOR, INA, DEN, ENG, etc, all want to perform at a level to have a good fighting chance for the OG golds.

    the chinese don't want to perform at a level to have a good fighting chance to win the OG gold medals.
    the CHN team want to perform at a level that will GUARENTEE them the OG gold medals.

    its not an issue of having more or less stamina than other players from other countries.
    if they feel they need consecutive weeks of structured training and practice to guarentee success, they will do what it takes to make that happen.

    what i can potentially seeing as a good solution is some how changing the qualification laws a bit, to allow CHN to let some of their B-team players to join.
    i'm sure individuals like wang yihan, gong wejie, chen long, would perform well enough to give the other top players a challenge.

    yeah, i can see how its not entirely fair if everyone has to play while the chinese tops get to rest, but thats the benefit of having that many players to draw on, and you can be darn sure that everyone else would be exercising that advantage or priviledge if they had that opportunity, not only the chinese.
     
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    SS Finals is an invitation event

    I think the Chinese Team decided not to participate in the SS Finals because no ranking points will be given, even though the prize money is better.

    And the reason why no ranking points will be given is because the SS Finals is an invitation event, while the ordinary SS events are open to all players.

    If the SS Finals were to award ranking points, then it would not be fair for players who are not in the top 8 positions (who are not qualified to participate in it).

    Unfortunately, for the SS Finals, BWF has already made their rules for whom who could be invited (the top 8 players in each category, maximum of 2 from a nation only).

    Even if the Chinese B-team players wanted to play, they might not be qualified for the SS Finals, except for Chen Hong whom I have mentioned who is qualified.

    There could be other players from China, not involved in their A-team but ranked high enough to be invited, but is China interested to send them ?

    As I have posted before, when BWF thought of these SS events and Finals, they were trying to follow Tennis (the ITF's GP, Grand Slam, and Masters events). Unfortunately, almost all Badminton players are not playing as individual professional players, but as players subject to their National Associations.

    I think, in the future, if and when Badminton players can play as individuals like Soccer, Tennis, Golf, etc... players, then the SS events and their Finals will become realistic, as what they were intended to be.

    Cheers... chris@ccc
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