Cheers Youth International Badminton Championships 2007 (Singapore)

BSU17
Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin [3] vs Maneepong Jongjit -- MAS vs THA

BDU17
Maneepong Jongjit/Pollawat Boonpan vs Barry Anggriawan/Seiko Wahyu Kusdiyanto -- THA vs INA. The Djarum pair is under the tutelage of Sigit Budiarto. Can they turn to be a top junior pair in the next 2 years? We shall see...

maneepong jongjit was trailing 19-20 in the rubber set of the bsu17 against iskandar and he tried to flick serve. too bad it was out and iskandar won the match. maneepong jongjit managed to make up for his disappointment by winning the bdu17 title with his partner.
 
congrats to arif nandang saputra. he was leading in the second game and should have won it. ashton chen disrupted arif's momentum as he repeatedly asked for the floor to be mopped. finally he was refused by the umpire. guess its all of the game.

am impressed with arif because:
- he has a backhand smash, like tafik's but not as powerful.
- he didnt even have a coach yet he was able to read ashton's game. on the contrary ashton kept turning to his coach for ideas.
- his defence is excellent. he neutralised most of ashton's smashes.

a pity he didnt win the doubles title as well. i thought his partner made a lot of errors.

is arif one of the top juniors of the indonesian clubs? he will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future imho.

He just won Yunior Kejurnas in Solo this year by defeating Adi Pratama whom Aston beat in the 3thrilling sets....Arif is one of top junior in INA now.....
 
Congratulations to Iskandar and Zulfadli.And Zulfadli is simply awesome.He blasted his opponent in 3 and 13.There are sill many good players other than the BJSS's.


I know Zulfadli can do it because based track record in Kedah Open Division Two a few months ago. He got title at that time after beat his Selangor's teammate, Sharizal Abd Latip in final. In semi final, he and Sharizal beat top BJSS's. This is bad news to BJSS's.
 
congrats to arif nandang saputra. he was leading in the second game and should have won it. ashton chen disrupted arif's momentum as he repeatedly asked for the floor to be mopped. finally he was refused by the umpire. guess its all of the game.

am impressed with arif because:
- he has a backhand smash, like tafik's but not as powerful.
- he didnt even have a coach yet he was able to read ashton's game. on the contrary ashton kept turning to his coach for ideas.
- his defence is excellent. he neutralised most of ashton's smashes.

a pity he didnt win the doubles title as well. i thought his partner made a lot of errors.

is arif one of the top juniors of the indonesian clubs? he will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future imho.

Totally agree with you, Arif will be a force in near future, very calm and skillful. I especially like his sportmanship, normally the player who hits the shuttle to the net will pick up the shuttle and send it back to the opponent, but Ashton Chen seldom do that during the game, in fact Arif was the one who picked up the shuttle most of the time even though the shuttle was hit to the net by Ashton.
 
Arif Nandang Saputra and Adi Pratama were two members of INA's WJC team in Auckland this year.
 
Hi,

Adi Pratama from Jaya Raya Badminton Club in Jakarta.

and Arif Nandang from Tangkas Badminton Club in Jakarta

Are Adi Pratama and Ari Nandang Saputra in the Indonesian junior squad or representing their clubs? They are pretty good imho.
 
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wow, wearing spectacles playing badminton...

discrimination against short-sighted players? haha
 
To eaglehelang

Kak Ayu, when you have the time, tell us a bit about the matches you watched, esp the Semis and Finals. The ones you know better are Jonathan & Iskandar right? Why did they lose in Semis? Opponents very good?
Dear eaglehelang,

I really enjoy watching the semis and the final. Let me informed you that this is the first time Iskandar and Jonathan partner. Reaching quarter finals stage considered good achievement. The most interesting match in the semis are the boys doubles under 15 when we have to fight in rubber game against Indonesia pair. We managed to pull through to give Malaysia the ultimate winner. In the final boys singles under 17, Iskandar had to a close fight in the rubber game. Malaysia players and me continued to give him encouragement,he managed to pull through and win the titles for us.

In 6 days events, I have been the strong person who stood tall behind the players in happiness or sadness. I have enjoyed myself in meeting the new batch of players who need to be groom.Well done, Malaysia! I am proud to fly Jalur Gemilang high when Iskandar won the title.

From:
Ayu
 
To kokcheng

Ayu,I wasn't at the stadium but I know Isk and Zul very well.Isk is a fighter whereas Zul is skilful.Both have good positive attitude.
Dear kokcheng,

This is good for Malaysian badminton as we have raising stars for our badminton in future years to come. Our girls are able to enter semi finals in girls doubles under 17. This is a good sign for us as we send all the new batches of players not our key stars to the tournament.

From:
Ayu
 
Cheers Youth International

The Filipino players put up a decent showing this year. They had 3 semi-final matches (1 GS Under 13, 1 BS under 15 and 1 BD Under 15). Here are a few pictures of them in action.
 

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Although Singapore held its own with having 5 finalists, I don't really think we have much to be proud of except for young Ashton as the rest of the "Singaporeans" are from other countries. Tanapat Pisitpong was brought in by Xin Min Secondary School from Thailand, Ricky And Chayut are foreigners too, Ricky being from Indonesia and Chayut from Thailand I think, with his sisters Natthaporn and Thitirat. Liang Xiao Yu is from China and she claims to be 11 years old. She's good but I seriously doubt the 11 year old thing. Look at her muscles and her height, all quite developed already. Wu Song Jian is a real talent, small young kid who really looks his age. Pity he's from China too. But still, Singapore has it's fair share of local talent. Maybe it's because of poor draws that few of them made any noticeable progress.

Just my two cents worth. =/
 
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Everyone everywhere originally came from somewhere.
That's how today's communities and societies were born.

Tony Gunawan for the US, Pi Hongyan for France, Mia Audina for the Netherlands...
...when these players win, they win for their adopted nations too.

Singapore has no reason to feel low :)
Import talent, emulate talent and grow talent.
That's the road to eventual self-sufficiency in sport. :cool:
 
Everyone everywhere originally came from somewhere.
That's how today's communities and societies were born.

Tony Gunawan for the US, Pi Hongyan for France, Mia Audina for the Netherlands...
...when these players win, they win for their adopted nations too.

Singapore has no reason to feel low :)
Import talent, emulate talent and grow talent.
That's the road to eventual self-sufficiency in sport. :cool:


It's a pity that even some locals feel 'ashamed' of having foreign talent in our midst. When non-locals from other countries criticize or become sarcastic with our policy, we can understand why, especially when their own players were defeated by our foreign talents.

Even those who demean us should ask themselves where they originally came from, their fathers and their forefathers. Can they claim that they were the original "sons of the soil", from time memorial?

Our Singapore foreign talents are like our forefathers who fled from different parts of Asia, especially Southeast Asia, for various reasons, but mainly to seek a better life. They became local citizens eventually and contribute to the well being of their adopted country, helping in its economic, social, educational and cultural development.

Can we denounce these foreign talents as fortune seekers, traitors, etc for abandoning their own countries? If we do so, then we are not true to ourselves, for most of us are their descendants.

So I hope that those who look down on foreign talents and their adopted countries should change their view. Now that the world has become global, one day you may be a foreign talent yourself! :D
 
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i think the reason why there are so many foreign talents is because no one believed in the locals
 
i think the reason why there are so many foreign talents is because no one believed in the locals

Not really because we have local talents who have excelled, but circumstances are such that not many in the past took to badminton as they did to swimming, bowling, water polo and sailing.

Remember in badminton Singapore contributed to the badminton world a great name Wong Peng Soon.

But mindsets are changing now and we should have more local talents represented in more sports and games, even in badminton, in years to come! :)
 
Absolutely agree with Loh though I aint proud of their achievements, there's nothing to be shame for being FTs (Foreign Talents). However, I just dont like the idea of "scouting" for young talents from overseas (mainly CHN and INA) as part of their processes.

It's different if the players venture into a foreign countries volunteerily for greener pastures and being "scouted" with perks (education, allowance, etc...). Not to condemn those "recruiters" coz I understand why SG did/doing so :rolleyes:

Make no mistake. Those young talents arrived in SG at a very young age and are trained to be the next Taufik or LinDan. It takes a whole complete sport system to produce a world champion and we should give them, both the players and coaches, the credits.

If you live in SG and watch the local tourneys (esp the school tourneys), it's not hard to see why they are "FTs" coz they dominate the local school tourneys. I've seen few very talented INA young and senior players playing in local leagues/tourneys and they are simply superb.

As we move into globalization, sports are intensively driven by results. It makes perfect sense for the top mgt to produce "results" to keep their heads up, or rather, their iron rice bowl :p

Just a joke, one of my local friends was joking with me during the SEA Games table tennis match. "ehh... I thought our women table tennis team is CHINA 2nd team... coz by reading their names, I cant tell if they are local breeds" (Just a joke, no offence intended)
 


If you live in SG and watch the local tourneys (esp the school tourneys), it's not hard to see why they are "FTs" coz they dominate the local school tourneys. I've seen few very talented INA young and senior players playing in local leagues/tourneys and they are simply superb.

Just a joke, one of my local friends was joking with me during the SEA Games table tennis match. "ehh... I thought our women table tennis team is CHINA 2nd team... coz by reading their names, I cant tell if they are local breeds" (Just a joke, no offence intended)


Yes we need the foreign talents to show us the way, to inspire us to do better and to affirm to us that a higher standard can be reached. :)

Hanyu Pinin names

Regarding the Chinese names, your friend may wish to know that for a short period in Singapore's early independent history, the government tried to introduce a policy to simplify the names of the various Chinese dialect groups by using 'hanyu pinin' and their equivalents in the Chinese character. So instead of the dialect surnames of Teo, Chan, Tan (?), etc, the hanyu pinin is just 'Zhang'. Children during that time were required to register in their hanyu pinin surnames when they first started formal education in the schools.

Unfortunately this policy does not go well with the parents because their children's surname will be spelt differently from theirs and their forefathers. A surname to the Chinese is very important to carry the family name generation after generation.

So instead of the dialect names of Teo Wei Yuan or Chan Wei Yuan, the hanyu pinin is used as just 'Zhang Weiyuan'. People will not be able to tell from the hanyu pinin name whether the child is a Teochew, a Hokkien or a Cantonese, unlike before.

Later the parents resisted and insisted on continuing to use the dialect surname to ensure that the family name is not broken. So now we have a compromise like Teo Weiyuan or Chan Weiyuan, a hybrid version of the hanyu pinin! :D

So if you find a Zhang Weiyuan playing for Singapore, he need not be a foreign talent!
 
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INA's club colours

There were many Indonesian players indeed. Can you help identify which clubs do these players come from?

Hi Sealman, these players are way too young for me to know individually, so I will take hints given by their clothes... :p

  • The grey shirted kids with RS brand attached on them are from Suryanaga.
  • The orange shirted kids are from Jaya Raya, that's their favorite color and some of them clearly had Jaya Raya written on their shirts. ;)
  • The blue-base shirted kids are most possibly from Wima club, East Java. One even clearly has Wima written on his shirt.
  • The ones from Djarum are clearly the ones with black & red or white-based with patterns of black & red. That's the club colour.
  • I don't know what Arif Nandang wore, but I bet he would wear the Tangkas white-base with blue collar and blue accents on the right or left sleeve.
  • The others... err... sorry... :p They are probably from smaller clubs who do not have any consistent colored-uniform. :)
 
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