Changing into a different colored shirt?

Discussion in 'Rules / Tournament Regulation / Officiating' started by GingerCorslette, Apr 2, 2019.

  1. GingerCorslette

    GingerCorslette Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2017
    Messages:
    461
    Likes Received:
    126
    Location:
    Asia
    Everyone remembers in 2013 WC MS Final when Lin Dan was admonished (or warned) by umpire when he changed from a yellow to a red top. Must've been before the second or deciding game. Then the commentators caught on; Steen said this move will cost him (LD). Are there any explanations for this or that's as plain as it gets - for order? Does this still apply?
     
  2. psyclops

    psyclops Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2017
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    31
    Location:
    ger
    Will it be possible for you to include some other reference, such as the time of the match, or a link to video? And no, not everyone's memory will be as sharp, mine keeps going a little bit every day.

    And what is the for order you refer to?

    Offences and penalties were listed in the handbook that was in effect at that time - general competition regulations, sections 19 to 23 pertained to clothing. There may be modifications now, not only in the amount for each default, but also definitions of the offences.
     
  3. GingerCorslette

    GingerCorslette Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2017
    Messages:
    461
    Likes Received:
    126
    Location:
    Asia
    The exchange can be seen here. Please visit the link.
    By for order, well, kinda like uniforms in school/workplace policy. E.g., if a black set is in effect, you gotta wear all black. Can't go yellow of a sudden.
     
  4. Littlejohn

    Littlejohn Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2012
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    21
    Occupation:
    Lazy Bum
    Location:
    Leighton Buzzard
    I have not viewed the link so am only guessing as to what happened but could it be that LDs opponent was also wearing a red top, the rules state that opponents must wear tops of different colours.
     
  5. GingerCorslette

    GingerCorslette Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2017
    Messages:
    461
    Likes Received:
    126
    Location:
    Asia
    Lin Dan and Chen Long both wore white tops in their previous meeting, before this Malaysia encounter. It was even the same uniform.
     
  6. whatsthecallUmp

    whatsthecallUmp Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    suisse
    You are correct about the deciding game; it was not before second, it was before the third game.
    Here is what I have from the situation near the end fo the second between games interval:
    --
    01:01:19 Lin Dan
    01:01:21 Lin Dan
    01:01:22 Dan
    01:01:26 You [have?] changed colour
    01:01:28 You have another colour
    01:01:32 [commentator: hmmm ... this ...]
    01:01:38 Twenty seconds [commentary concurrent]
    01:01:40 Twenty seconds
    01:01:43 [commentator: ... got red ...]
    ... [co-commentator ... red card ... no yellow card ...]
    01:02:05 Final game
    01:02:11 Love all
    01:02:13 Play
    01:02:14 Lin Dan seen powdering
    ... Chong Wei waits
    01:02:24 Lin Dan requests shuttle change
    01:02:26 Umpire seen granting the request
    01:02:28 Service judge exchanges shuttle
    01:02:37 Lin Dan at ready position to serve
    01:02:39 Final game starts​
    --

    I do not hear any admonishment or warning from the umpire.

    The GCR (mentioned earlier in this thread) pertains to colour of clothing.
    These are regulations, not rules, if you are picky about terms.
    Be all of this, rules or regs, as this was the final, the GCR are applicable to the letter. Previous rounds are sometimes exempt. If you find the edition of GCR of that year [2013] it will have all the clauses and sub-clauses.

    To those who want to know what happens next.
    The umpire reports this situation to the referee.
    That is all an umpire can, and must, do, nothing more.
     
    Cheung likes this.
  7. whatsthecallUmp

    whatsthecallUmp Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    suisse
    Just to be clear, black set in effect means black was used to start the match.

    The latest GCR is also clear - no change of colour is allowed throughout a match. So you are correct black to yellow will not be allowed.
    As this was individual event, we will not look into the team, and doubles, requirements.
     

Share This Page