BWF Calendar 2020

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  1. kurako

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    The M & Qs for both the Danisa Denmark Open I and the Victor Denmark Masters 2020 are available at https://corporate.bwfbadminton.com/events/calendar/. Currently, the most notable absentees are Tai Tzu Ying, Team Thailand, and Team Korea.

    Kantaphon Wangcharoen, however, is listed.
     
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  2. CLELY

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    And INA players as well following their last minute withdrawal due to COVID-19 pandemic.
     
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    What are those Asia Open I and Asia Open II called before?
     
  4. CLELY

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    Considering its lucrative prize money, we can assuming Asia Open I, II to replace both S1000 tours that have been scrapped from 2020 calendar, Blibli INA Open and Victor CHN Open.

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    Students’ protest is going on in Thailand. It could jeopardize the Asia Open. Do you think?


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  6. CLELY

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    Political turmoil might play the role, we'll know the decision by tomorrow as rumored.
     
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    The entry deadline of Asia Open I is 29th September meanwhile BWF hasn't confirmed the host yet...

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  10. Bardie

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    Ok ,
    Asia Open I is the date from Thailand Masters in Bangkog
    Asia Open II is the date from Malaysia Masters and
    HSBC BWF World Tour Finals is the date from Indonesia Masters
    So normally there will be no "normal" Masters tournament (300 or 500) in Asia in January

    What do you think of playing the World Tour Final. There are only a few tournaments until the
    All England in March and - maybe- the Denmark Open and the two Asia Open to confirm the World Tour Final.
    For me this tournament doesn't make any sense .
     
  11. CLELY

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    Absurd, BWF just wants to force World Tour Finals still exist (sponsor demands) in this very messed up calendar and challenging circumstances:eek:

    Only 10 tournament than normally 33 tour in the so-called HSBC-BWF World Tour 2020 season:rolleyes: :

    NOVEMBER 2019
    ECOGREEN SYED MODY INTERNATIONAL Badminton Championships (S300) | 26 November-01 December

    JANUARY 2020
    PERODUA MALAYSIA Masters (S500) | 07-12 January
    DAIHATSU INDONESIA Masters (S500) | 14-19 January
    PRINCESS SIRIVANNAVARI THAILAND Masters (S300) | 21-26 January


    FEBRUARY
    BARCELONA SPAIN Masters (S300) | 18-23 February

    MARCH
    ALL ENGLAND Open (S1000) | 11-15 March

    OCTOBER
    DENMARK Open (S750) | 13-18 October
    SAARLORLUX Open (S100) | 27 October-01 November


    JANUARY 2021
    ASIA Open I (S1000) | 12-17 January
    ASIA Open II (S1000) | 19-24 January
     
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    ASIA OPEN is S1000. that must be 1.000.000 PrizeMoney
     
  13. Bardie

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    I absolutely agree with you , thx for the list , BUT: SAARLORLUX open is not part of the HSBC-BWF World Tour. So there are only six tournaments before the lockdown and maybe three tournaments after the lockdown - with not playing the best players in all three tournaments! - to fix and play the World Tour final.
     
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    Based on previous editions, S100 Tour point also included for HSBC Race to Guangzhou Ranking calculation (2020 edition renamed "HSBC Race to World Tour Finals Rankings).

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    A good news for players who miss Denmark Open 2020, amendment to World Tour Finals eligibility.

    BWF deals with postponement aftermath
    By Fabian Peter - September 30, 2020 @ 8:30am

    https://www.nst.com.my/sports/badminton/2020/09/628414/bwf-deals-postponement-aftermath

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    "Covid-19 has not just been difficult for the BWF but the entire human race. At this moment, we do want to simply predict," said BWF secretary-general Thomas Lund when asked if BWF could guarantee that it will not happen again when team events, including the Sudirman Cup, are held next year.

    "Every industry out there is affected, but we have got a great understanding from all our partners.

    "We believe that the Thomas and Uber Cup Finals are one thing because it's a team event, and when top nations are not part of it, it has a big impact on the overall event.

    "However, the Asian leg of the World Tour is an individual event, and while it is sensitive to question a player's choice on whether to compete or not, the BWF would like to welcome all shuttlers to Thailand in January," added Lund.

    Another good news for players is that the BWF have relaxed the qualification requirement for the World Tour Finals on Jan 27-31.

    This means players, who will not compete in the Denmark Open next month, and vice versa for the Asian leg Opens, can still make the cut for the season finale.

    "There have been changes to the rules," Lund said yesterday in a virtual press conference, also attended by BWF president Poul-Erik Hoyer and deputy president Khunying Patama Leeswadtrakul.

    "Obviously, the rules (participating in tournaments) were mainly about safety measures of moving athletes from one bubble to the next, which is no longer the case because of the separation of the two legs.

    "The rules are being reviewed, and we will get back to the players and members associations with the final framework and technical details on how we're going to conduct these tournaments and also the qualification for the World Tour Finals."

    Lund did not deny that 2021 could be a busy year with the Sudirman Cup, Thomas Cup and Uber Cups, World Championships and the Olympics all set to be held in the same calendar season for the first time in badminton history.

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    ‘Asian Leg Might Provide Blueprint for Cluster Tournaments’
    29 September, 2020
    TEXT BY BWF STAFF
    https://bwfbadminton.com/news-singl...ht-provide-blueprint-for-cluster-tournaments/

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    Asked why BWF had chosen to conduct the Asian leg in January 2021 and not in November 2020, Lund charted the complexity of the process.

    “We had planned the European leg which included the TOTAL BWF Thomas and Uber Cup Finals and two Denmark Opens in October. At the same time we announced we would plan an Asian leg. Setting up that level of events is a complex and big exercise. Simply due to time constraints, we are not able to conduct it before January, which was found to be the best time to get the logistical arrangements in place.”

    Lund noted that a lot of effort had gone into planning the resumption of the circuit, with the DANISA Denmark Open (13-18 October 2020) marking badminton’s long-awaited return.

    While a few other sports had restarted their circuits, Lund said badminton faced challenges of a vastly different scale.

    “The challenges are not as big if you don’t have to cross so many national borders. In our normal tournament structure, we have 300 to 400 players coming from 40 to 60 countries. The big challenge here is that we need them getting out of their countries, and then getting in to the host countries, with quarantine restrictions and so on, which are being dealt differently in different places. That creates a complexity in getting that many people together in one location. That’s what we are trying to bridge by creating this cluster in Thailand, where we can play a number of tournaments in the same location.”

    Lund added that it was possible that the cluster model would be adopted for more tournaments if found suitable.

    “We are looking into whether we can replicate that into further clusters in 2021. That’s part of the exercise we’re going through at the moment. This could be a blueprint on how we can conduct tournaments in an Asian leg, and how we can move that on in further cluster tournaments. But there are financial complexities that we are working to get through.”

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    *Badminton fans might see adjusted tournament format - cluster system - for the still abnormal BWF Calendar in 2021.
     
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    dear bwf,
    • what is your calculation of how long each cluster will last + how many weeks in between the next cluster for 2-way quarantine time? a minimum of 4 weeks required. so...
    • this will vastly reduce the # of tournaments. which begs the ?'n...
    • how many clusters will it take to satisfy all wt levels —300/500/750/1000?
    • what will a cluster look like: 500/750/1000? 300/500/750? 500/500/1000?
    • other than europe and asia where else would be worth it to have a cluster? pan-am, oceana, africa?
    • what happens to the wt 100/challenger/int'l series/future series levels? will you attempt to cluster those or ignore/drop them?
    • you have no choice but to eliminate the 'committed player' rule.
    • i hope you realize a 'team' can still prevent a player from entering a cluster despite the player wanting to play, and they certainly will at various times since they own the player and have a $$$$$ investment in them.
     
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    That is perhaps the biggest problem. BWF only looks at the "big" tournaments on the World Tour and has the problem of having to play Sudirman, Thomas / Uber Cup, Olympics, World Championships, and Continental Championships in 2021. If you look at the Denmark Open 2020 you will see that the last participant in the men's singles is No. 91 in the world. Even two weeks later at the SaarLorLux Open (Super 100) the last of the 48 participants is number 161 in the world. Players 100 and over in the world rankings have and thus hardly had the opportunity to play a tournament after the lockdown in March 2020. The last international challenge was the Austrian Open in February 2020, all other tournaments were canceled for 2020. Thus a player in 200th place in the world rankings could not play a tournament for almost a year. This is not acceptable.
     
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    i can't imagine anybody would be currently willing to host and finance a stand alone lower level tournament with no guarantee any athletes —or not enough athletes— would be willing to enter it. these lower levels get $0.00 from the bwf sponsors like hsbc, and the organizers expenses will increase due to add'l safety protocols... especially transportation and lodging accommodations for the refs & umpires. also, how many int'l umpires would be willing to risk hopping on a plane and travel to these lower level tourneys at their own expense? right now i can't find any place willing to rent me a venue for july 2021.

    2021 is going to tell us a lot about bwf's executive circle. do they have a process in place from which they can make decisions based on a logical plan? i don't see it.

    i wish for bwf to prove me wrong.
     
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    You're right. But it can't be the task of the player to change this fact. Structures must be created so that players who are 200th in the world rankings can play tournaments at their level. When you see that in Europe an International Chalenge with 25,000 USD in prize money costs the organizing association around 100,000 USD, it would only be fair if BWF supports these associations. Cause for these associations it is easier to cancel the tournament "because of Corona" and save the money.
     
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