BG80/No.1 Hybrid

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  1. Charlie-SWUK

    Charlie-SWUK Regular Member

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    Right, I was absolutely pessimistic about Aerobite. Turned out to be an alright string, reasonable 66UM replacement. It's too expensive for my blood though.

    I cut the Aerobite, it had died after 2.5-3 weeks. I've now replaced it with a combination of Yellow BG 80 (mains) and white Li Ning No.1 (crosses), I've strung it at 12kg and will be trying it tonight. First impressions are, you can definitely feel the BG80 in there, grip and hit wise. You get some of the pop of the No.1. This is just a light knock in the house mind you, seeing how serves and just hitting a shuttle up feels.

    I'll post more when I have more.

    Racket is a VT 50 E-Tune (with all e-tune grommets replaced with normal grommets).

    EDIT: Slight mistake! I strung at 12.5, not 12.
     
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    I have tried hybrid bg80 with gtone5 and bg80 with ashaway 62f.

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    How did it go? I feel like BG80 will destroy most things paired with it.
     
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    I feel bg80 with gtone5 more crispy than bg80 with ashaway 62f

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    Is there a danger you could damage your frame if you hybrid two strings with different tension fall off?

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    Didn't know the 50ET looked so good. Let us know how it plays... Maybe I will give a hybrid setup a chance as well.
     
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    Charlie-SWUK Regular Member

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    I use the bottom silver parts for aesthetic reasons, but I remove all of the other E-Tune parts. Don't think they do much to be honest.
     
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    First session.

    Hoo boy, this string is crazy.
    No string has the feel of BG80, but sometimes that feeling is a bit too much. I find that BG80 on its own over 27lbs starts to hurt my arm. No.1 is no exception, it doesn't have the feel of BG80. When you combine them...

    You get something slightly softer than BG80, but with that noticeable thud as you hit. It retains a good amount of the solid properties that makes BG80 enjoyable. However, I found that No.1 made accessing the power much, much easier. With BG80 it feels like you jump from 2nd to 6th, but having the slightly softer, but very repulsive No.1 on the crosses, makes it easier to access everything in between.

    Pushes were very clean and easy. Net play was fantastic. Overheads were wonderful in drops, clears, and smashes. I've not noticed any damage to the string so far - a big concern of mine was that a vectran braid would chew through pretty much anything paired with it. Hell, BG85 ate into itself rapidly.

    It's only my first session with the string, but it feels very accessible, powerful, and controlled. I don't know if anyone else wants to give this a shot, but at current, it gets a recommendation.
     
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    I reckon I might have to give this a go. Maybe substitute r4x 110 for bg80.
     
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    Used it again last night, holy crap, this string is easier to use than normal BG80, activates a lot easier. It's definitely not as solid as full BG80, but you can absolutely feel the 80 in it.

    The grip of BG80 makes slice shots amazing. You can get some crazy spin off of net shots. The shuttle is never wild, never goes where you don't want it to go; clears, drops, net, the combination is absolute in precision. The power you can generate is incredible with this combination, last night I was getting some incredible sounds off of the racket, sinking shots into lines.

    The weirdest thing is you can hear the two tones of the strings, BG80 and No.1 make different sounds, and together they produce a unique two-tone sound.

    There's still no sign of damage on the No.1; I was very apprehensive about BG80 destroying anything paired with it. When I tried BG85 - given it's the same string but 0.01mm thinner - and nearly killed it within a week, I thought BG80 would tear through pretty much anything else. The No.1 is absolutely fine, not a mark on it.

    The No.1 is holding tension remarkably well, and still feels snappy after a good 6 hours worth of play total so far. This is in line with expectations, as No.1 itself was always good for retaining tension. String movement is minimal thanks to the BG80; while No.1 is a little more slippery, BG80 stays nicely in place. I've had to correct my strings a few times, but I'd say the movement is less than normal. If I'm playing heavy slices I can need to straighten after each rally with other strings like 66UM.

    Li Ning No.1, as many of us know, is a great string on its own. The drawback is.. it's awkward to get, some people want some more grip out of their string, and for some it's not quite strong enough to resist their strength. By combining it with BG80 - a very easily bought string - the No.1 goes further, the BG80 offsets some of the negative characteristics, and you end up with a very solid stringbed.

    If I were to rate the strings..
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    Repulsion - How quickly the string leaves the string bed
    Power - How powerful/strong shots are
    Durability - Longevity of the string (in terms of snapping)
    Control - How easy it is to control the shuttle including placement and slices
    Feel - Higher rating is more direct/solid; lower is softer
    Sound - Does it sound nice when you hit

    I did the totals after I did all of the values, so it was pretty blind. I've highlighted in bold the top scorers for each category.
     
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    That is indeed an interesting find..With hybrid stringing, there is going to be an abundance of combinations now from variety of strings to different tensions.
    I guess it does open up a world of possibilities for stringers and player alike:) Badminton just became more fun.
     
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    I think you need to use complimenting strings. I think it'd be hell pointless to combine BG 65 and BG 68 Ti, or 66UM and NBG98.
     
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    Right you are..Lot of possibilities though, till we form some sort of standard/platform for different combinations based on trials.
     
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    I pretty much copied the Aerobite idea.
    Rough thicker main with thinner repulsive cross.
     
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    I just strung my own DZS with BG80/Aerosonic hybrid (BG80 main 28lbs, Aerosonic cross 29.5lbs) , but haven't get chance to try it on court yet.
    Tested it to play with wall and it sound so nice, with the combination "Boom" of BG80 + "Ding" of Aerosonic = "PING PING PING" :D (Sound very close to the legendary string BG66S). Will give it a try on coming saturday game.

    Hopefully it doesn't disappointed me like Aerobite. :rolleyes: with hopes.
     
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    Seems like something I should try as well on my DZS.... If only sunrise would make 80 available here and stop promoting the not so enjoyable 80p.
     
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    Finally tried it on last saturday. It feel so good for me. but i'm not sure most ppl would like it as it's very personal pref.
    I can control so well like BG80 and yet the repulsion it's superb and less stiff. I would say i love it, but not most ppl.
     
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    Hi,
    Just wanted to share some of my own experiments:
    I recently strung my Nanoray 90 DX racket with LiNing No 1 mains and Yonex Aerosonic cross with 25x27 tension - I observed there was slight improvement in the repulsion power and hitting sound (comparing to previously strung LiNing No 1 mains and cross same tension).
    Then, I strung my Victor BS12N with BG80P mains and Aerosonic cross with 26x28.5 tension - this time the repulsion power and hitting sound were unreal !
    Also, I strung my Voltric 80e-tune with LiNing No 1 mains and Yonex Aerosonic cross with 26x28 tension and felt this string combo worked much better for this racket - the lifts and clears felt effortless and the smashes are amazing.
     
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    Thanks for such detailed comment. I am an intermediate, essentially a frontcourt player who plays mainly on weekend with plastic shuttles. I am thinking to go for Astrox 88s. Can I go for the above hybrid with following specs,
    Main BG80 - 23lbs
    Cross No.1 - 25lbs
     

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