Badminton: Two Malaysian players banned 20 and 15 years for match-fixing

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  1. pcll99

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    the order is : they are "banned from performing any function in badminton for a period of [15 or 20] years. Such ban covers, inter alia, any administrative, coaching, officiating, or developmental functions" (my emphasis)

    Can they do coaching privately? Yes, I think so since BWF can't enforce the order against a private individual.

    Can they do coaching for a private club? If that club does not participate in any BWF-sanctioned events, I think probably yes.
     
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    Sounds like other job plans will be needed.

    It's going to be tough.

    Once you get tempted by the first one, it's difficult to reverse. You get pulled in more and threatened by blackmail.
     
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    ZZ's father is a coach. It would be extremely difficult for him coaching youngsters, this would be an ackward situation . Children are meant to bring good name to their families not the other way round. He brought bad name to whole Malaysia.
     
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    A shocked Zulfadli ready to tell his story

    PETALING JAYA: Former world junior champion Zulfadli Zulkiffli was shocked at the 20 years ban slapped on him by the Badminton World Federation (BWF) after he was found guilty for match-fixing.

    Zulfadli, 25, who appeared furious, is ready to tell his side of story and will call for a press conference in “a day or two”.

    “I’m still recovering from shock due to the decision — I will certainly do a press conference in a day or two,” said Zulfadli via a text message in his first statement since the match-fixing controversy broke out.

    He even asked a question: “#mangsa atau tertuduh? (#victim or accused?)”

    Read the full article at https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/ba...-ready-to-tell-his-story/#Sv3LeaL75vxBLfzT.99
     
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    Disappointing to see that the ban is 20x more severe than that of someone who has been caught doping though. Now we are saying that match fixing is (far) more serious than doping and I do not believe that is the case. But it seems the BWF make exemptions for their untouchable stars
     
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    @LD rules!

    Good point you brought up.

    One difference is match fixing will bring in a criminal investigation.
     
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    Yes, i believe it is far more serious than doping.

    1 doping is a desire to win. The players want to win to hard, thats why they doped.

    2 doping doesn't guaranteed a win, match fixing guaranteed a lose! The certainty in it make it a much more serious offense.

    Remember we have Olympics games that were marred by purposely losing.

    Doping is a serious offense, it is unfair. Match fixing, is totally against sport
     
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    paragraph 251 of the Decision:


    These two players should feel lucky. The Panel could have imposed a lifetime ban.
     
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    hmmm actually i still can't fathom this... participating in this match-fixing really brings that much money? really?? anyone has some sort of idea, maybe rough calculation of the amount of money involved?

    hmmm thinking about this i wonder if minions received any offer due to their winning streak....
     
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    The problem exists with a lack of financial reward for players for winning matches. Especially if you are independent. I am not defending Zulfadli or Tan, they have both made mistakes that will cost them in many different ways, however, when it is easier to win 4/5x more money by losing a game or a match as it is than the prize money for the whole tournament, then you leave them with a difficult choice especially given how difficult it is as a professional player to make ends meet.

    Doping is just as bad, you are trying to take shortcuts to a success you have not earned. If your desire is so strong, then you will not need supplements to top up your training as your dedication should speak for itself.

    We don't have to bring up the Olympics again, but that was clearly a desire to overall win. Are you saying that if you are in the Olympics and you can ensure a better chance at overall success by losing a match you wouldn't take it? You need to consider the bigger picture. The system was the problem, not the players.
     
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    Easily $10,000 plus from what I am aware
     
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    A shocked Zulfadli ready to tell his story
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    • Wednesday, 2 May 2018

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      Zulfadli was shocked at the career-ending ban by BWF


      PETALING JAYA: Former world junior champion Zulfadli Zulkiffli was shocked at the 20 years ban slapped on him by the Badminton World Federation (BWF) after he was found guilty for match-fixing.

      Zulfadli, 25, who appeared furious, is ready to tell his side of story and will call for a press conference in “a day or two”.

      “I’m still recovering from shock due to the decision — I will certainly do a press conference in a day or two,” said Zulfadli via a text message in his first statement since the match-fixing controversy broke out.

      “It's time that I tell my side of the story. Fortunately, BWF did not have the power to pronounce death sentence — or else I am sure they would have preferred that option.


      image: https://content.thestar.com.my/smg/...tertainment_MovieLovers,Demo_AffluentAudience



      "It's through this tribunal I learnt that human rights is not recognised. You will hear more from me from the press conference."

      He even asked a question: “#mangsa atau tertuduh? (#victim or accused?)”

      BWF slapped Zulfadli and Tan Chun Seang with a 20 and 15 years ban respectively on all badminton activities for match-fixing between 2013 and 2016.

      They were also fined US$25,000 (RM98,162) and US$15,000 (RM58,897) respectively.


      Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/ba...-ready-to-tell-his-story/#HKcebEGqyUwfpP2z.99
     
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    is that figure per match?
     
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    I don't think there are good reasons to justify for the actions of the two players concerned.

    Professional players know what the game is all about and if they have breached the rules they should be responsible for their own actions.
     
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    Tan Chun Seang never came out to defend himself...
     
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    he knew he guilty sure he won't defend himself...
     

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