Article: The Art of Badminton Deception - Hold and Hit

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  1. shooting stroke

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    Nice and detailed explanation you have got there above, shooting stroke. Keep it up!
    The problem i observe in Malaysian social badminton circles is, most beginners have not even master the basics (example EVEN proper grips and footwork!) and yet they are already over enthusiastic to execute all the fancy trick shots ;)
     
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    Can't agree more. The basic tools to perfectly master any deception is to perfectly master the basic shots first.;)
     
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    I'm working to add the 2nd type of deception that is the double motion deception (both long swing and short swing type ) later for further knowledge sharing.
     
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    You r right tckang. Most players don't even master the basics and yet they r playing all those fancy shots. With the 21-points scoring format, if these fancy trick shots not executing well, it will lose points, and this will lead to us losing our confidence as well (which many social players don't realize). I am a firm believer in playing the basics 1st b4 we go on to execute fancy/funny shots. Many players just stick to the basics and can win games consistently already. Thx shooting stroke for the detailed sharing on the hold and flick techniq.
     
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    3 things need to be added:

    1. In order for deception to work, your fake action (whether single or double motion) has to be telegraphed very obviously for your opponent to see. Not only that, he also has to react to it. If he sees the fake action, and yet not react to it, then your deception will has less impact.

    2. As you mentioned, this is a high level skill that is added to a solid foundation. In most games I've seen (club or professional), you can only get 2-3 points using deception. Why? Because a worthy opponent will quickly adapt and avoid being deceived by simply not reacting until they've seen the bird leave your racket.

    3. Deception will by its very nature cause you to lose some precious time to execute. The contact point will be lower, leading to a less aggressive shot, so it'll only work well for net shots or lifts or clears. Deception will only work well if your opponent has hit a bad shot or you have reached a shot early enough so that you have the time to think and execute it.
     
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    the diagram is easy to understand

    very well drawn

    remember practice makes perfect
     
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    Any video clips would be better, if available.
     
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    This a good example of a hold and hit video. Observe closely that:


    [video=youtube;z807arNCPHs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z807arNCPHs&feature=related[/video]

    - The racket level is high so he can address the shuttlecock earlier to allow him to make
    enough room to make the back swing / reverse movement of his forearm
    - The hold component that is the back swing follow through is done by
    synchronizing the racket head movement with the direction of the shuttlecock trajectory
    - The hit component end as a deceptive forehand cross court net.
     
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    I love these deception techniques and they made you less predictable.
     
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    good write up... Lot of people complain about players yet to master the basic trying to do deception.

    IMHO, no harm for players to try a few deception along the course of the game but if they do it 9 outta 10 times then it too much.

    I personally will try out deception shots with weaker players to polish the skills before using it in real tourny!
     
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    This video of Lee Jae Bok is more than just a simple hold and hit. He is actually executing a double deception in this demonstration. He moves in and holds as if he is going to execute a net drop. After a brief hold, he then drops the racket as if he is going to clear (lift or flick) the shuttle deep. Shortly after the racket drop, he then drops his hand (and the handle of his racket) to change the orientation of the racket face in order to hit a net shot cross-court instead.
     
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    very true, mayb its the excitement and thrills from executing trick shots thats causing a lot of players frm developing basic strokes and footwork.
     
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    This means not only does deception have a potential to score directly, it also has the potential to take away your opponent's ability to anticipate your returns, thus slowing him down.
     
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    A detailed explanation just like this one explains what kind of attack you can implement in playing badminton!:cool:
     
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    This is the art of Badminton

    A detailed explanation just like this one explains what kind of attack you can implement in playing badminton!:cool:
     
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    visor is right, it wont work very well against d pro players, tats why u wont c much professional players using deception shots all d time during tournament.. u might as well get in early to tk d shot as u hv much more option to play it!
     
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    Nice tutorial btw.. ;)
     
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    i'd have to disagree. deceptions are always used in the top tier of badminton, especially by lin dan. i have been studying his videos lately and i have come to appreciate how amazing he is, btw. it's always used in the doubles too. this is due to the high speed reactions required in doubles. sudden "hold and hit" actions will help them to win points, when least expected.
     
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    you can't use lin dan as an example... he's not human! :p :)

    in doubles, don't forget there's 2 players covering their side of the court, so again, unless your opponent hits a loose shot that you can get to early enough, you can't really score... unless they make an error or you can get an outright kill
     

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