An interesting fact...

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  1. Silencer

    Silencer Regular Member

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    Did you guys noticed from 2007 onwards, if koo-tan ever played in a final, they will surely win it.. (exclude the asian badminton chmapionship 2007)
    I mean once they are in a final they NEVER lost... :cool:
    you can correct me if i am wrong:rolleyes:

    anyway congratz to them for winning their 1st super series of the year
     
  2. robin7

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    They are 10-2 in finals so far, having only lost to Candra/Tony in Japan Open 2006 and Choong/Lee in ABC 2007.

    Japan 2006
    1 Doha 2006
    2 Malaysia 2007
    3 All England 2007
    4 Swiss 2007
    ABC 2007
    5 Philippne 2007
    6 Macau 2007
    7 Denmark 2007
    8 Macau 2008
    9 SS Masters 2008
    10 Swiss 2009
     
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    this is a superb performance....koo/tan just formed oficialy at doha 2006....after 2 years and four monthes...they have won 10 titles....compare to lww/ctf(since 2002)just won 5....:eek:....twice more than lww/ctf(since 2002,7 years and 4 monthes) with only 2 year and four monthes(koo/tan)

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  5. Silencer

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    Despite the critics' fervent attacks on Koo (in particular), you just cannot dispute the fact that Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong make up the best MD pair in Malaysia at this moment, and arguably in the past 5 years.

    1 Asian Games Individual Event Gold (2006)
    1 All-England (2007)
    4 Super Series (Malaysia & Denmark 2007, Swiss 2007 & 2009)
    1 Super Series Masters (2008)
    3 GP Golds (Philippines 2007, Macau 2007 & 2008) -- 9 individual titles if you discount the SS Masters.

    Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun's achievements:
    1 World Championships (2006)
    2 All-England (2005 & 2009)
    5 Super Series (Singapore, Indonesia, China Masters & French 2007 and Korea 2008)
    1 GP Gold (Thailand 2008)
    1 6* GP (Hong Kong 2005)
    1 5* GP (Chinese-Taipei 2006)
    1 4* GP (Macau 2006)
    2 3* GP (Swiss 2004, German 2005) -- 14 individual GP titles

    Of course, besides these individual titles, Fu/Cai also won some invitational tourneys like the Invitational World Cup 2005, Copenhagen Masters 2006, the team events such as Thomas Cup in 2004, 2006, and 2008 + Sudirman Cup in 2005 and 2007.

    In the first 2.5 years of their partnerships (2004-mid 2006), Fu/Cai win only 6 titles (including the cap ayam titles ;)). Since they won the World Championships in 2006, they started a winning run of 6 titles in 2007 and 2008.

    Similarly, if you want to compare that with Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan in the first 2.5 years of their partnerships before the WC 2007 (late 2004 to first half of 2007):
    0 Super Series
    1 Badminton Asia Championships (2005)
    3 6* GP (Indonesia 2005, Hong Kong & China 2006)

    A mere 4 titles (1 cap ayam), but since the WC victory in 2007, they went on to win:
    1 Olympics Gold (2008)
    6 Super Series (Hong Kong & China 2007; Malaysia, China Masters, Denmark, and French 2008)
    1 GP Gold (Chinese-Taipei 2007) -- 12 individual titles.

    Even if you discount the "cap ayam" titles won by Koo/Tan in 2007 and 2008, I believe their achievements of 1 AE, 4 SS titles and 1 Asian Games Gold in their first 2.5 years of partnerships more than match that of 1 AE and 2 equivalent SS titles (Swiss & HKG) won by Fu/Cai and 3 equivalent SS titles (Indonesia, HKG & China) before their respective WC victories in 2006 and 2007 :eek:

    No doubt, Fu/Cai and Kido/Hendra have that WC Gold Medals nicely placed in their cabinets. But, it took Fu/Cai 2 failed attempts (2003 & 2005) and Kido/Hendra 1 failed attempt (2006). Even Lin Dan only managed to win the WC in his 3rd attempts too (failed in 2003, 2005).

    Koo/Tan had their solitary chance in 2007 and failed big time in front of the home crowd. Naturally, they get condemned big time and critics had their field day. They managed to partially reedem themselves by winning the "cap ayam" Macau GP Gold (despite beating the newly crowned World Champions Kido/Hendra in the SF, and also with Fu/Cai's presence) and Denmark SS (yet again beating Kido/Hendra) later on. Surely I can foresee they will still get criticized for many things despite the Swiss SS victory yesterday (eg: waste tax-payers money for QF loss at the previous week's AE) :rolleyes:

    In my personal opinion, if Malaysian fans are hoping for Koo/Tan to emulate Fu/Cai's and Kido/Hendra's achievements, it's still not too late to wait if they can deliver in their 2nd (2009 in Hyderabad) or even 3rd attempts (I believe in 2011), before making a verdict on Koo/Tan's achievements as a one-hit-wonder.

    As a badminton fan from INA, I find it amusing that they get condemned by some MAS fans'. Coach Sigit Pamungkas will be more than happy to take Koo/Tan in if BAM is to kick Koo/Tan out for underperforming in the past 2.5 years. Even if the pair ends the career without any more titles, Koo/Tan's achievements is something that they should never feel ashamed of :cool:

    One last bit, there's another undisputed fact that Koo/Tan have the age advantage, being younger than the current top pairs: Paaske/Rasmussen, Boe/Mogensen, Fu/Cai, and Kido/Hendra :rolleyes:
     
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    Welcome to the MAS mentality. :p
    No seriously, welcome to the MAS mentality. If you represent MAS, you have to be either a legend or a failure and waste of taxpayers' money, well at least in this forum. :eek::(
    IND has got plenty of great players. I am still looking forward to seeing the new Hendra Setiawan pairing. Definitely another WC in the makng. :cool:
     
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    Sure, even Indonesia and I bet China must have their own underachievers that represented waste of taxpayers' money. They scarcely get any mentions, let alone being condemned.
     
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    how come 2010 dont have world championship?
     
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    Opps, I just checked BWF website, the 2010 WC will be held in Paris. So, MAS fans don't have to wait that long :D

    Strange though, I though they want to revert to old-format of a bi-annual WC in odd-years, with an invitational tournament in the even years. Hmm...
     
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    again...this show how knowledgeable badmania is...
     
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    Is this for REAL?:D:D
    I appeared to like your detailed analysis.:D:D
     
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    Of course he is knowledgable, it would do most MAS fans good (plus reduce their blood pressure), if they emulate badmania ...... :D
     
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    Well said badMania. People tend to forget how young Koo (23+) & Tan (21+)are. Let's give them a break...
     
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    hehe....well....koo/tan is in the way to be the most succesfull md in mas since ykh/csk i think....:rolleyes:...correct????in term of title....even lee/chong just win 5 title since 2002....:rolleyes:
     
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    No, WC every year except Olympic year, when the Olympics become the de facto WC.
     
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    Why sarcastic icons?
     
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    must post carefully...if not...i will be holeless....:p....
     
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    holeless= without hole :confused:

    Introduce u a nice website...
     
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    hehe....thanks....okok....i wont simply use word next time...sorry....:(
     

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