2016 Rio Olympics Badminton Venue

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  1. kwun

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    Some info I got from another source:

    http://sports.ltn.com.tw/news/breakingnews/1643831

    The badminton venue in Rio is right next door to the athletes village. Very convenient for the badminton athletes.

    However, as it is a convention center, the ceiling height is only 12 meters. After adding wooden flooring it will end up around 11.5 meters, or 37.7 feet. While it should be adequate for recreational, it is low when compared to sports stadiums. It will definitely feel very different.

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    So lower ceilings like that have less draft than big stadiums right? Then it'll be better for badminton matches that way.
     
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    that's a good point.

    i was thinking the feel and atmosphere between a low ceiling convention center and a huge high ceiling sports stadium is very different.
     
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    Yeah, smaller venue would be more intimate. Another plus would be a lower camera angle for broadcast would mean better depth perspective for viewers. Unlike some bigger stadiums like HK, Korea, Indonesia, China.
     
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    Smaller also tends to fly a bit faster, no?
    So we might see the Japanese WD struggling...
     
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    That's interesting re the WD Japanese. Good part of their strategy is the stratospheric lift.
    But it could affect everyone. A high, high lift is a handy way to return that tight net shot you were late getting to.
    Does anyone actually know the height of a typical professional clear/lift?
    In my recreational life I am quite sure that I've never hit a 30ft ceiling during play.
     
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    I wasn't so much thinking height of the ceiling; more the fact the Japanese often do better if they have time to organise their defence.
     
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    Now I've always wondered about that: would the speed be corrected when the officials perform the shuttle testing? So in the end the shuttles will fly at the right speed regardless of size of the hall?
     
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    What happens when the shuttle cock hits the ceiling? Do they replay the match?
     
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    hitting the ceiling is a fault.

    37 is plenty high though. we have a local gym that is 36ft and it take considerable effort even when we deliberately try to hit the ceiling there.
     
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    This looks terrible. Badminton has been one of the best attended events at the Olympics, a marquee event.

    It seems the Rio organizers just put in enough effort to find a place for the matches to take place.

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    that's before they dress it up. with seating and floor and lighting, it will look fine.
     
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    as for the shuttle speed vs ceiling height, is there any studies done on it? or at least experimental results?
     
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    So the venue which organized Rio Open last year wasn't the venue for Olympics? I thought it was a dry run for those who wanted to see how the venue looks like and to adjust with the new venue.
     
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    The Chinese Taipei coach already said that he had never seen such low ceiling at a competition venue. And he suggested his players to train in a basketball gym to get used to such low clearance.

    Lin Dan was at the test event. There were only 500 seats then. Lin Dan was totally unhappy with the setting. He also commented that the confined space would create more drafts to affect hitting accuracy. http://sports.sohu.com/20151201/n429014696.shtml
     
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    Not sure if there are any scientific evidence, but it is often said that the shuttlecock flies slower in a bigger hall. Low ceiling would make a smaller hall.

    Often at swimming competitions, it is said that a deeper pool would create more bouyancy that lead to faster records.

    Don't quite understand this, there seems a scientific connection.
     
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    So after the wooden floor and everything is added this hall doesn't follow the official tournament rules.
     
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    slower in bigger hall.
    faster in deeper pool.

    seems like the relationship is reversed?
     
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    I do believe that bigger halls have different acoustics. a more hollow or less echo from the hall. this is more psychological though.

    I still like to understand how the size of the hall affects speed.

    in swimming, water is much denser than water, and the wave hitting a deeper vs. shallower pool can have a more direct effect on speed. i guess that can be said to be the case for the shuttlecock too, but we are talking about a much smaller object flying through much less dense medium (air) in a hall that is relatively much much larger (visualize the size of human vs pool, and the shuttlecock vs hall)
     
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    Just a wild guess:

    Bigger volume floats better. A shuttercock comes down slower. A swimmer stays higher on water (less water resistance).
     

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