2014 Maybank MALAYSIA SS Premier : R/16 & Quarterfinals (16th & 17 January 2014)

Nice point. If Chen Long beats Lee CW again, this time on his turf in front of his fans and supporters, and he jolly well could, it absolutely won't go down well, with many people feeling sore about it.

Furthermore, archrivals do have mutual respect for each other. Good thought.

This is nonsense/rubbish/wishful hearsay statement! Players come here to play basically to earn a living. Respectful of home country's beloved player is by being true to yourself and show up to beat your opponent fair and square. Chicken!!.
 
Definitely, Kenichi played really a pitch perfect display today to beat world rank 2 player. Many chinese fans started to pour their reasons , analysis and their impossible theories just to say "it's because of their funny internal politics, impending birthdays" etc etc. My foot. This is the most funniest thing i have ever heard. And some coronations to say CL's true potential by showing the second game.. lol. Then what happened to third/rubber game with more or less the same score before losing the match.. Does it implies Kenichi Tago's true potential? .

While one of the die hard fans of china speaks something like "Chen Long will make all the opponents to work really hard by pushing them to 3 games and then winning them except LCW" ,the other one fan already started to list series of reasons.. Lol. This proves how stupid remarks a person can make without knowing the stature of the game. Give some respect to opponent who made real effort to do that job.

Though CL is good , i must say that he can't reach the level of Lindan or LCW at any cost. He may lose to anyone at any time. Not a consistent player like LCW.

You are right that no player can win every times when playing a quarter final match of super series including LD and LCW (I guess).

I have not watched the match between CL and KT yet but one thing I do know is that internal or external (or both) politics are always involved in any sports that Chinese players take part in. I believe those fans who are familiar with Chinese sport will be able to tell.
 
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Seems Ahsan/Hendra should learn how to handle Yoo/Lee from their junior. :)

I think it is more like LYD had an off day. Agga/Saputra is younger, fitter than Ahsan/Hendra pair. I see Ahsan/Hendra should learn a thing or two from Angga/Saputra about court coverage, not too loose defense and court ready to play in top shaped- stamina. Hendra had an off day yesterday and Ahsan just became a dad so he was out of shape.
 
The biggest upset has to be the defeat of Chen Long (S2) at the hands of Kenichi Tago (S5) in three games 18-21, 21-9, 10-21. It was KT’s first defeat of CL since the A-E QF in 2012 and the rivalry statistics now stands at 6-3 in CL’s favor.
Goh V Shem/Lim Khim Wah of Malaysia have reached their first-ever SF stage of a SS premier tournament and their next opponents will be the unseeded Angga Pratama/Ryan Agung Saputra. With the spectators’ support, it is hoped that GVS/LKW will prevail.

Angga was talking to Saputra: Huh... Goh V Shem/Lim Khim Wah? Ok, bring it on! We want and will win a 1st SS finally.
 
Notice Ahmad/Natsir were given a walkover by Kido/Pia.

Quite unusual for CHN to have only one pair of WD Bao/Tang in the semifinal.

LOL high and mighty! Houston we have a problem. there is only 1 CHN WD left...
Other than WXL/YY only 1 Bao/Tang who is exceptional in such short meteoric rise! WXL/YY chose to bail out and not even bother to come to Malaysia.

Anyway, BYX is such a genius in WD not so much in XD. MaJin is the opposite. She is XD specialist but not so much in WD.
 
This is nonsense/rubbish/wishful hearsay statement! Players come here to play basically to earn a living. Respectful of home country's beloved player is by being true to yourself and show up to beat your opponent fair and square. Chicken!!.

I agree that every players should put in 100% effort when they are playing no mater where and when (in a ideal world). However, sometimes things do not turn out that way like black and white. There will be some grey areas appear from time to time. It could be a few factors or theories why CL pulled out and I guess we may never know all the true reasons for it but at least we (badminton fans) can discuss it in peace?
 
I saw that match between SY and WYH. Firstly, SY is a better player than YX with more weapons in her arsenal and secondly, WYH played badly in that match. You're right, obviously the probability of who beating who isn't always so clear cut - sometimes a "better" player tries their best but the "lesser" player plays beyond themselves, gets lucky or has a breakthrough. I'd have no problem with that, but that's the key though; the better player has to try their best. Now, that is frequently not the case with Chinese players, and I have seen it numerous times with players like WYH and CL. That's one of the main issues I (and I'm sure many others) have with the Chinese team - they're always playing to lose every now and then and you're never sure it's because of their funny internal politics, impending birthdays or goodness knows what else.

Look at Jorgensen who just beat Momota - everyone knows he has no chance against LCW tomorrow, but he always gives it a 100% and I can't ever imagine him playing like how CL did this week, for example. Ditto players like Fischer Nielsen and Pedersen.
Fair comment if that's what you think. But, isn't it strange that whenever a non-CHN player beats WYH, the ROW fans will be jumping for joy, not caring a damn whether WYH is off-form, injured or whatever that's bothering her, a win is a win? Yet, when a fellow CHN junior or lesser player beats WYH, something must be fishy, not acceptable for WYH to have a bad day, be off-form or whatever !? Remember, when LXR was rising and beating her senior elites one after another, some people were saying it was all LYB's doing and whatnot - now, looking back, it's groundless, far-fetched and stupid.This is just one example but you get what I'm driving at, those conspiracy theories and suchlike.

Coming back to WYH here at the MAS Open SSP. What's her chances winning the SSP title? Well, about as high as LXR's , probably a littler better than WSX's, certainly much better than Yao Xue's on paper, also clearly higher than the possible non-CHN semifinalists such as Akane Y, Bae YJ and Jindapon. So, why wouldn't WYH go for it, including earning the relatively good prize money and considerable ranking points? To me, she happened to be not at her best and lost to an underdog with nothing to lose and perhaps played above herself as you suggested but certainly not intentional on her(WYH's) part, that's all; I can think of no other reasons or hidden agenda.

JOJ always gives of his best but, still, that doesn't mean he didn't have his fair share of mediocre results, eg 1st Round loss to Darren Liew at CHN Open SSP about two months ago, R2 loss to Prannoy at JPN Open last Sep, R1 loss to Sakai at INA SSP last June, etc...

As for Chen Long's lackluster performance this week, after reading from the Malaysian press that he was down with fever (same for Tai TY, we were told) coming to the MAS Open SSP which affected his form but he still entertained us for three rounds instead of withdrawing at R1 - I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and not read too much into it; simple as that.

Again , just an exchange of views. Enough said . Thanks.
 
Notice Ahmad/Natsir were given a walkover by Kido/Pia.

Quite unusual for CHN to have only one pair of WD Bao/Tang in the semifinal.


Kido was overheard saying this to his kid sister, Pia: "Pia, who is we are playing against?... oh Owi and Butet. I am tired. Feeling lousy after a lose to the Chinese. I see you too lost earlier to them. Let's bail out!!! Let Owi and Butet play tomorrow.
 
LOL high and mighty! Houston we have a problem. there is only 1 CHN WD left...
Other than WXL/YY only 1 Bao/Tang who is exceptional in such short meteoric rise! WXL/YY chose to bail out and not even bother to come to Malaysia.

Anyway, BYX is such a genius in WD not so much in XD. MaJin is the opposite. She is XD specialist but not so much in WD.

I do not know how MJ handles both WD and XD in the same tournament one after another (Korea open). Kido gave a walkover too after a 3 set match with CB/HW.
 
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This is nonsense/rubbish/wishful hearsay statement! Players come here to play basically to earn a living. Respectful of home country's beloved player is by being true to yourself and show up to beat your opponent fair and square. Chicken!!.
Have the courtesy to read the posts in chronological order before you jump in or end up barking up the wrong tree.

That post I wrote was in response to latecomer's view which I regarded as fair comment.

Later when Cheung posted the MAS news article which revealed Chen Long's running a fever which affected his form, I realized my conjecture was unfounded and wrote a follow-up post to apologize to Chen Long for having misunderstood him. As such, it has superseded the post you targeted wrongly. It's obvious you either miss it or choose to ignore it deliberately.

When somebody revealed earlier that Tai TY had fever coming to this tournament which resulted in her retiring in G2 with Bella, how come nobody murmured ? I chose to believe TTY with some reservations.
 
because TTY was already on fever during monday.
her situation worsen on thursady.
anyone on bc know chen long on fever?since when?
 
You are right and where is the Lou twin sister pair? They were in the Korea open final a few days ago.
The Luo twin sisters are still ranked too low to qualify for SS tourneys yet.

Anyway, it's good that CHN sometimes not send their top pair, WXL/YY, to certain SS events.
 
Now then you tell us Tai TY's fever started on Monday and worsened on Thursday. How would we know if nobody tells us? I believe Tai TY must be affected by something or she wouldn't suddenly retire during a match and against an opponent I expected her to beat. I actually asked in a post here for more info but none was forthcoming, until now.

As for Chen Long, it was pretty obvious he wasn't quite himself the last few days from R1. But,of course, some biased, even extremist, anti-CHN fans would have none of it, fever or no fever. Whatever, to each his own. I choose to believe Chen Long , just as I believe Tai TY, and that's my reasonable right, not blind faith which is not my philosophy.
 
Damn Lee Yong Dae wan´t himself today. Bad start for him.
Ofc the Indonesians played very well, but Lee/Yoo were not inform today, still they had a chance, what is a good sign.
 
I think it is more like LYD had an off day. Agga/Saputra is younger, fitter than Ahsan/Hendra pair. I see Ahsan/Hendra should learn a thing or two from Angga/Saputra about court coverage, not too loose defense and court ready to play in top shaped- stamina. Hendra had an off day yesterday and Ahsan just became a dad so he was out of shape.

Also, LYD played 2nd-to-last match on Court1 in the 2nd round, so he also ended really late yesterday.
 
because TTY was already on fever during monday.
her situation worsen on thursady.
anyone on bc know chen long on fever?since when?

This Badzine article after the R16 (http://www.badzine.net/news/malaysia-open-r16-–-defending-champions-out/28637/) did say

Badzine said:
The world #2 then turned serious and explained: “Actually, it’s normal for one to get wins and losses at an Open. Also, it’s a fact that I did not play well today. I’m not feeling well due to the change of climate from Korea to Malaysia. I have not trained for two days, and my condition isn’t very good.”
 
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