2014 Li Ning BWF Thomas & Uber Cups - Day 6 : SEMIFINALS (23rd May 2014)

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  1. mrinalini

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    No. I do not like Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei, but I sit back and watch their playing and I have to be honest in my appraisal: they look light, fluid, artistic, sublime. I sit back and watch Nehwal and Sindhu or any other Indian lady, and the very intimation of using those adjectives to describe their playing becomes a laugh. Instead, I see a lumbering, very limited mode of playing, and a great lack of crispness, elegance, and finesse.
     
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    The same Indians have time and again made many people eat their own words...

    Ignore it...
    Its just that the display name given happens to be an Indian rooted name, may be she hates it!! or somebody for it :)
    from Dictionary:
    Mrinalini Meaning:Collection of lotuses
    Origin:Sanskrit/Indian
    Gender:Girl

    A die hard fan/worshipper in disguise, the one who secretly prays that India does well and out of disgust is portraying self to be the biggest hater so as to satisfy self ego, comes out blabbering mostly when India plays. Hates/(loves) only two players SN and PVS

    or if not that then just plainly you put it right with massive grudge against Ind.
    I assume the earlier though...
    Anyways, there is no point getting/analyzing/feeling what makes one person say what they actually say, the forum is only about the game.
    Jezus have mercy on all the fans of the game and make them strong!!!
     
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  3. gopalprasad

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    Even the ROW doesnt has a chance against CHN now with their collective strength.... :) unless ofcourse CHN falters big time in UC!
    Their WD power is a cut above the rest and their Singles are no less meaner either...
    They have the best in all disciplines lined up there and not just one best, there are multiple bests to chose from, like army :)
    One down there is another standing behind... while for the other countries there is just one player or 2 fighting for them...
    China is like an army, anyone wins its a CHN win,(it doesnt happen the other way if one CHN loses the CHN loses) while for the rest if one goes the country is down ;)
     
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    Good effort by India. The strategy of fielding singles players in a serious matchup is something we have not seen for a long time. That's very refreshing. Unfortunately, India has been undone by a lack of doubles strength. If they had had one seriously good Ladies doubles, and Jwala/Ahswini at number two, that's all it would have needed.
     
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    Just putting my 2 cents on the Uber cup semi IND vs JAP, and also QF.
    IND have a large roster of players, enough players to make 2 WD.
    Instead of choosing players who specifically trained for doubles, they instead chose two single players to play WD 2, aka Nehwal and Sindhu.
    And because of the required rest time, WS1 and WS2 match have to play first, instead of the normal order WS1, WD1, WS2, WD2, WS3.
    They did this because of home crowd and they are very confident in the WS players abilities. If they win WS1 and WS2, then the pressure on their opponent is much greater for WD1. This is what happened in QF when Indonesia WD1 pair lost, although INA pair were ranked much better.
    This is a psychological tactical warfare.
    However if they do lose the WD1, then their tactic will backfire. And this is what happened today in the Semi against Japan.

    IMHO, this kind of tactic shouldn't be allowed, UNLESS a team is short on players.
     
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    Most Indian team coaches are top exsingles players, its time that the Indian Badminton Association start recruiting top
    doubles coaches to boost their strenght in the doubles for both the men's and women's team. But given time I suppose,
    with so many good single players around, the focus on doubles will come in the near future.
     
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    However Gopichand favors only singles and India Badminton Association is too timid to wrestle that control from him.
     
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    The Japanese ladies showed excellent footwork and fluid movement on the court, just lack of power like the IND and CHN ladies. I'm amazed that the 5'1" Yamaguchi can cover the court so well. It's fun to watch. Hope they can improve their power and hope to challenge the top players some days.
     
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    Why does anyone need to wrestle anything from Gopi, yes you need to focus also on doubles, so hire a doubles coach and ask him to work with Gopi....
    He has done more than enough for the Indian Badminton already and IBA is nothing without him....
     
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    Whats wrong in this from BWF per se? It hurts India more than the opponent as the players they rely on are taking more burden/are more fatigued when they come to play doubles.
    If you are talking about not repeating any player in a tie then we are talking about increasing the burden on playing nations/tournaments and how many can afford it is questionable. If you want to promote badminton across the world that would be a negative step.
     
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    Like the tingling of a furin :)
     
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    Wow, Japan has created a bit of history of it's own today, by making it to the finals of both TC and UC the same year! :)

    Congratulations on this very amazing feat!

    How many other countries have ever achieved this in the entire history of the Thomas and Uber Cups?
     
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    +1 for this!

    [MENTION=104048]scorpion1[/MENTION] should print this out and frame it above his bed! :)
     
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    Totally agree. The point TBH saved when INA was holding their match point proved too costly for INA. I don't expect MAS to cruise thus far, and don't even think CHN will be out of final.

    Good!:D
     
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    What else cry baby like him will do when india is conducting a massive tournament. This is not new. Have you seen his whole posts in this thread ..you could see the entire picture clearly then. This is something like "oh. Bwf. I dont like india . So dont allow them to conduct major tournament" etc.

    He is saying that india got thrashed by japan. Ha ha. He is definitely trying to conceal the murder which happened to chinese thomas cup team .. india is second
    Tier country which already shown that they are upcoming . No need to prove further.

    Leave that troller who simply has nothing other than targetting india and indian players.

    Hopefully , we believe china will not cheat in the final and play normal game so that
    Everbody will watch atleast. Oh no.. they will field wang xioli?. Who will come and watch her play...
     
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    ++1. Credit needs to be given when due, and TBH/HHH and CWF simply perform beyond expectation and propel MAS to the win.
    I had feeling TBH/HHH will stretch Hendra/Ahsan, but never thought they'll be able to snatch the win!
     
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    From past records, you weren't very successful with your preductions. Hope the trend continues.
     
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    .Only two.
     
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    It's going to be quite a while before LYB recovers from the shock defeat at the TC semis to a totally charged-up Japanese team. This will give him opportunity to reflect on his doubles strategies, and to learn the belated lesson that in-depth preparation in crucial singles matches must not be limited to how to deal with LCW. I believe that possible over-confidence -or complacency- will haunt him for a long time to come.

    The Malaysian team was the hungrier team on the day, and it showed in the results. I think their only hope was to take all 3 matches at the top, and they went all-out to accomplish just that. The INA players just didn't do themselves any favours and they got the result they deserved.

    China UC team looks focussed and primed and finished things off as per script. Their script. :D

    IND UC team punched above their weight for much of this week, and have nothing to apologise for.

    But the real story of this TUC is of course, very much, Japan!
     
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    TBH and HTH should be paired back together for the next few years but HTH has to lose some weights. He was slow and they pulled it off because this is a team event and the pressure was very much on their opponents, esp Ahsan.

    If this were to be an individual event, they won't be so fortunate.

    Btw, it's HTH not HHH (Hash House Harriers).
     

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