2012 All England SSP: Sat 10-Mar Semi-Finals matches

the danes' attitude (particularly boe's) is a total disgrace - smashing & whipping the racket, kicking the board etc. they look like the sort of thrash who would batter their wives or girlfriend when things don't go their way in life. definitely the worst of all the danish players i've seen so far - complete embarrassment.

And........no red card for this kind of behaviour? ;p
 
kwun,I couldn't have said it better.

This supreme super grand master,Lin Dan,can do anything he likes and there's simply nothing his opponent can do about it. He can do that to practically everybody except Lee CW and CL, I think.

What about Taufik or Gade ?

Im sure on a good day both these players capable of defeating LD as well.
 
Today was great at the Yonex All England. Today it is a shame that Ma Jin and Xu Chen lost to the dans but I think Chen made several mistakes. It was a great between Lee Hyun Il and Lee Chong Wei, Lee Hyun Il made several brilliant winners against the number one. The game with Jung Jae Sung and Lee Yong Dae VS Carsten Mogensen and Mathias Boe, I realised that the Dans were getting really frustrated as their game strategy didn't work that well and the Koreans did really well to beat them. Kenichi Tago played really well against Lin Dan, Tago is good player however he has a lot of pressure on him, but Today Tago stayed clam and played his game and was pretty close to beating Lin Dan
 
Does anyone noticed that the malaysian Lee(CW) and the Korean Lee(HI) play a similar style?
No wonder as both were under the Chinese Lee(miao) for awhile.

Now, is another lee (Li XR) the new favor for head coach Lee (Li YB)?
 
Just a bit of side news. after today's SF , YY was watching the other semi with her 2 younger team mates and she had a big ice pack with her all the time. wouldn't be too surprised if there is a no match for tomorrow's WD final
 
Does anyone noticed that the malaysian Lee(CW) and the Korean Lee(HI) play a similar style?No wonder as both were under the Chinese Lee(miao) for awhile.Now, is another lee (Li XR) the new favor for head coach Lee (Li YB)?
To be honest I think as well, both LEEs play cross court smashes and play very good net shots and etc
 
To be honest I think as well, both LEEs play cross court smashes and play very good net shots and etc

Both of them were from the same "seefu"(coach) except LHI relies heavily on his defensive arsenal to win while CW mixes his game well on both offense and defense. Interesting to know at one point LHI quit the national team because the training was to hard under Li Mao:D. I think if LHI is more aggressive in his overall approach then he can be a real threat! Imagine being passive playing against LD/LCW, if you're underdog then take some risk else the result will be "same old same old"!
 
LHI gave LCW a tough time before bowing out. He was good in all aspects and is a medal prospect for the 2012 OG.
CPS/GLY's gallant run came to an end but the score was a very respectable 25-27, 16-21, in favor of TA/LN. The XD is the only match without any Chinese representation as their number 2 seeded pair of XC/MJ were beaten by TL/KRJ 16-21, 18-21.
 
LD is damn good, he can dictate the match anyway he want...he can easily up his tempo if the need arises...and tht is what he is showing us at the moment against tago....everytime when tago seems to want to take off, lin dan will up his tempo and come storming back

LD seems in good form this time, LCW will have hard time in the final as LCW didnt showed any good displays in yesterday's SF against LHI.

LCW was way too weak in his attacks.....LHI almost retrieved all his smashes...LHI lost because of his own unforced errors......
 
Re-watching the XD SF between CHN and DAN pairs, looks like a match between an XD pair (CHN) vs a MD pair (DAN)... :DEuropean's size, if their female player possess the speed and skill, would be lethal and play like a MD....
 
Lee Chong Wei

“I woke up with some pain in my hand today – I don’t know why

This was before he went for today semifinal.

Don't know if he still feel the pain till tomorrow final. Hope fully not.

I saw that on tv. Throughout and after the game he was rubbing his hand. I thought he grip his racket too hard. I hope he will not push it too hard today. Save it for the most important game, Olympic
 
yeah, there should have been a red card (at least a yellow)

Not a single card was flashed probably because of the environmental pressure surrounding him (the umpire) I think. I can’t possibly think of any viable reason besides that especially when one had witnessed the Malaysian pair got flashed a red card for something less. And the umpire officiating that match was from the UK too - it simply reinforces the notion that the West usually gets away with less severe punishment than the more subservient East.

You see, the western propaganda machine is constantly at work in the papers we read; in the commentary booth (Gillian Clark & Anthony Clark); as well as here on this forum without even most realising it (including the perpetuators). Sometimes it is put across more subtly and sometimes strongly against the likes of China in particular with catchphrase like “cheats”, “walkovers”, “manipulations”, “mysterious illness” scattered all over the press/forum and slowly working into our conscious.

But the hypocritical West, as we have witnessed time and time again, wanting so badly to reign over the East in the world of badminton (case in point; boe/mogensen) would have no question - in any intelligible person’s mind - carry out the exact nationalistic acts as the Chinese would particularly when it possesses such dominance and depth.

I see it in this forum everyday - each time I tried to advocate my support for the Chinese team which incidentally deserves everyone’s unreserved and upmost respect, I got ridiculed, ignored, and accused of inflammatory remarks. Therefore after a while, one can’t help but question these motives.

We really ought to be cautious of the invisible (western ideological) hand at work that tries relentlessly to always encapsulate our unsuspecting minds to turn us against our kind. The irony is that the East should actually be grateful to the Chinese for finally freeing us from the shackles of the imperialistic west and leaving them to the slaughter and slavery of their own (debt) problems. For too long they have been living on the goodwill of the accommodating East.

“It is only a sport for christ’s sake” some would belittle, but the theorists know it is never just a “sport”. There is more at stake if one can see the bigger picture, the history of civilisations and the overall scheme.

But then again your mileage may vary so be nice and gentle to all human kind. :)
 
Looks like MS is still monopolized by Lin Dan and Chong Wei, the young guns like Chen Long, Tago, Chen Jin still unable to outshine them. Regardless the outcome of the final, it's quite certain this trend will carry on to Olympic.
As for who will win the MS of All England, I think LD(4x winner) and CW(2x) stand an equal chance even though the overall head to head records favor LD but recent outcomes suggested CW has leveled the playing field. I think the un-force errors will determine the outcome and can't wait to watch the "Clash Of The Titan, Part ??"
I am also happy to see Taufik regaining some of his form, he showed us the importance of net play in game 1 and pitfall of stamina in game 2. Especially happy to see Daren Liew and Chong Wei Feng to go deep into the round, is about time they played to their potential. As for Hafiz, at the age of 30, still not realizing the importance of fitness and continues to dish out poor excuses really is no excuse, why even include him in the Thomas Cup Final? Of course, the most disappointing of all, KKK/TBH ... need I say more?
Last but not least, I will always be a #1 fan of Peter Gade.

LD gave Chong Wei Feng a good review on the latter's style of play and potential to fill in LCW's shoes in the future. I must admit before this, I had no interest whatsoever in Wei Feng and now suddenly I would like to watch him play.
 
Your pt 2 is a bold and interesting thought,not entirely far-fetched or wildly imaginative, the hassle of acting it out and not slugging it out is unpalatable, to say the least. Frankly, I'd love to see LD and CL battling it out and treating us to a great match,irrespective who wins in the end;after all,their OG qualifications are already assured, so why not. Doesn't matter even if it turns to to be a grueling match that tires out the winner who then has to face a relatively fresher Lee CW, for I never seriously consider this a definite advantage as all top players are supposed to be supreme athletes, it would only matter somewhat if you've just played a whole tournament before coming to the next one almost immediately, as in the case of LXR from the German Open vs Tai TY today; take it as a form of training, except that CL will be playing in the Swiss Open a couple days later. Maybe CL wanted to conserve his energy thinking he wouldn't be able to beat LD anyway,at least not now.

Personally,I never like this kind of speculation, but with the first two sets so tightly fought and one apiece, then for CL to lose the 3rd quite easily,one can't helped but think along that line as you've intimated.

Whatever it is, Lin Dan vs Kenichi Tago should be a worthwhile match to watch, followed most probably by the Dream Final tomorrow.

As usual although it's highly possible or vice versa, these things are never concrete evidence unless of course they openly admit it which is definite 'no no'.

But banking on the fact that most ticket-paying spectators would like to watch the LCW-LD match anyway (majority, again speculation from my side), so CL's lost to Kenichi is forgivable. Haha..:D
 
Your pt 2 is a bold and interesting thought,not entirely far-fetched or wildly imaginative, the hassle of acting it out and not slugging it out is unpalatable, to say the least. Frankly, I'd love to see LD and CL battling it out and treating us to a great match,irrespective who wins in the end;after all,their OG qualifications are already assured, so why not. Doesn't matter even if it turns to to be a grueling match that tires out the winner who then has to face a relatively fresher Lee CW, for I never seriously consider this a definite advantage as all top players are supposed to be supreme athletes, it would only matter somewhat if you've just played a whole tournament before coming to the next one almost immediately, as in the case of LXR from the German Open vs Tai TY today; take it as a form of training, except that CL will be playing in the Swiss Open a couple days later. Maybe CL wanted to conserve his energy thinking he wouldn't be able to beat LD anyway,at least not now.

Personally,I never like this kind of speculation, but with the first two sets so tightly fought and one apiece, then for CL to lose the 3rd quite easily,one can't helped but think along that line as you've intimated.

Whatever it is, Lin Dan vs Kenichi Tago should be a worthwhile match to watch, followed most probably by the Dream Final tomorrow.

As usual although it's highly possible or vice versa, these things are never a concrete evidence unless of course China camp openly admit to it, which is a definite 'no no'.

But banking on the fact that most ticket-paying spectators would prefer to watch the LCW-LD match anyway (majority, again speculation from my side), so CL's lost to Kenichi is forgivable, well at least to me it is. Haha..:D
 
Your pt 2 is a bold and interesting thought,not entirely far-fetched or wildly imaginative, the hassle of acting it out and not slugging it out is unpalatable, to say the least. Frankly, I'd love to see LD and CL battling it out and treating us to a great match,irrespective who wins in the end;after all,their OG qualifications are already assured, so why not. Doesn't matter even if it turns to to be a grueling match that tires out the winner who then has to face a relatively fresher Lee CW, for I never seriously consider this a definite advantage as all top players are supposed to be supreme athletes, it would only matter somewhat if you've just played a whole tournament before coming to the next one almost immediately, as in the case of LXR from the German Open vs Tai TY today; take it as a form of training, except that CL will be playing in the Swiss Open a couple days later. Maybe CL wanted to conserve his energy thinking he wouldn't be able to beat LD anyway,at least not now.Personally,I never like this kind of speculation, but with the first two sets so tightly fought and one apiece, then for CL to lose the 3rd quite easily,one can't helped but think along that line as you've intimated.Whatever it is, Lin Dan vs Kenichi Tago should be a worthwhile match to watch, followed most probably by the Dream Final tomorrow.
It s great to be idealistic but this is stretching too far. LD is the General and all other CHN MS are just his foot soldiers. If you care to research through the past years data, maybe you will come down to earth. CL s distinction is that he has beaten LCW, one of only two players to have beaten him in the past three years. And he did so by getting a one match discount on those occasions. Essentially, CL is a play-one-match-less SS/PSS champion. CL has one big weapon and many little weaknesses. That s why he struggles against players he should have rolled over, based on his WR3 reputation.
 
WX has the best record against non-CHN players. IMHO, it is extremely unlikely that she would not be chosen by LYB.

it is possible that LXR might move up to no.4 within the next few weeks. if she does, will we see a repeat of 2008? (Recall: LYB ditched the reigning world champion, Zhu Lin, for the Beijing OG). WYH might be ditched at the last moment. Let's see what happens after Uber.

That's not entirely true, Wang Xin has 100 percent winning rate against Tine Baun ONLY !? Compared to Wang Shixian and Yihan, she is the one who struggled the most against other players and tends to get knocked out very early in the tournament.

I would strongly protest if LYB drops any of the WANGs from the Olympics especially Wang Yihan. She has done remarkably well and recovered from slump to win so many major titles, she is one of the best hopes for China to win, so why drop her for Li Xuerui? It should be Wang Xin who should be worried about because her early exits in random tournaments have reached the alarming level.

She has lost to Tai Tzu Ying so many times when they met in round 1/2 ( I could barely remember when was the last she ever beaten tai-phoon)

Sung Jihyun, Bae Younjoo and Juliane schenk have a higher probability of beating her because of their style of play.

Wang Shixian has to be there to counter them and she never had problems beating them, sometimes struggled against Schenk.

PS: I am Wang Shixian's fan and I believe Wang Shixian and Wang Yihan are both indispensable in their own rights..Wang Xin is the one who should fix her inconsistencies against random players or else she will lose her place...
 
Rely to tase75.

Not a single card was flashed probably because of the environmental pressure surrounding him (the umpire) I think. I can’t possibly think of any viable reason besides that especially when one had witnessed the Malaysian pair got flashed a red card for something less. And the umpire officiating that match was from the UK too - it simply reinforces the notion that the West usually gets away with less severe punishment than the more subservient East.

You see, the western propaganda machine is constantly at work in the papers we read; in the commentary booth (Gillian Clark & Anthony Clark); as well as here on this forum without even most realising it (including the perpetuators). Sometimes it is put across more subtly and sometimes strongly against the likes of China in particular with catchphrase like “cheats”, “walkovers”, “manipulations”, “mysterious illness” scattered all over the press/forum and slowly working into our conscious.

But the hypocritical West, as we have witnessed time and time again, wanting so badly to reign over the East in the world of badminton (case in point; boe/mogensen) would have no question - in any intelligible person’s mind - carry out the exact nationalistic acts as the Chinese would particularly when it possesses such dominance and depth.

I see it in this forum everyday - each time I tried to advocate my support for the Chinese team which incidentally deserves everyone’s unreserved and upmost respect, I got ridiculed, ignored, and accused of inflammatory remarks. Therefore after a while, one can’t help but question these motives.

We really ought to be cautious of the invisible (western ideological) hand at work that tries relentlessly to always encapsulate our unsuspecting minds to turn us against our kind. The irony is that the East should actually be grateful to the Chinese for finally freeing us from the shackles of the imperialistic west and leaving them to the slaughter and slavery of their own (debt) problems. For too long they have been living on the goodwill of the accommodating East.

“It is only a sport for christ’s sake” some would belittle, but the theorists know it is never just a “sport”. There is more at stake if one can see the bigger picture, the history of civilisations and the overall scheme.

But then again your mileage may vary so be nice and gentle to all human kind. :)



The West is very upset with the dominance of the East , particularly, China not only in badminton but in other sports as while. Rules were constantly changed in the past to counter that dominance. The scoring system in table tennis was changed to the 11-point system to provide for better chances of upsets and the size of the table tennis ball had been made bigger to reduce its spin and speed. In gymnastics an age limit was introduced to stop young Chinese gymnasts from participating in official competitions because their smaller body frames provide for better dexterity.

I am not surprised at all that the Danes were not flashed a card of any colour for their behaviors. In the match against Guo/Chai the Danes were never pulled up for a single ill service fault.The service judge only choose to be correct at the right moment to fault Chai’s service and handed the match to the Danes when the score was 20-19.
I agree totally with you that many Asians including many English- educated of the Chinese diaspora had allowed themselves to be drawn into the China bashing propaganda of the Western hypocrites . I am not surprised by this at all when you have English-educated Chinese who refer to themselves and other fellow Chinese as “Chinaman” even though this is a derogatory term from the 1800 era which was used by the Western imperialist to stigmatized the Chinese
 
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