it basically means there is no way m'sia can win this match with china, even with a bomb on the back. i do agree with it realisticaly. but i hope m'sia can spring an upset to make LBY eat his word. the most we can get is fr men single and MD and that itself is a tall order, a mountain to climb.
Assuming Thailand beats England and Malaysia loses to China tomorrow , the final score btw Malaysia and China would be pivotal. If Malaysia loses by a 0-5 scoreline and Thailand beats England 3-2, all three teams would have the same number of matches won and Malaysia should prevail based on countback. If Malaysia loses by a 2-3 (or 1-4 ) scoreline and Thailand beats England 5-0 (or 4-1 ) Malaysia and Thailand would have equal number of matches ( seven or six ) won but the winner between the Mal-Thai tie, Malaysia will go to the semifinal. There are only two scenarios where Thailand will advance 1.Winning 5-0, Malaysia loses 1-4 or 0-5. 2.Winning 4-1, Malaysia loses 0-5 As the tie between Malaysia and China will be played first, four hours earlier than the Thailand-England tie, Thailand would have known their chances of securing a semi-final berth by then. The better Malaysia plays against China, the more unlikely Thailand will go into the semifinal even if they win the tie againt England. This will certainly boast the chances of England if Thailand is not in a high spirit. If Malaysia wins tomorrow, it will be obviously more direct.
the crucial match between Eng and Tha is in the XD. whoever win XD will win 3-2. Eng knows they just need to win to qualify regardless of other result. and all this calculation will come to nought. my prediction is: XD - either way MS - Tha (Boonsak) MD - Eng LS - Tha (based on m'sia beating Eng n lost to Tha) LD - Eng (same as above LS's reasoning)
Thank you for your good deduction. Thai will win 4-1 and Malaysia will lose 1-4 or 2-3, and so it will be Malaysia into the semis.
MAS does not have to win in order to make LBY eats his words...the only thing MAS should do is to steal one point from any events in the match... if the one point comes from LCW or KKK/TBH, i'm pretty sure LBY will feel like comitting suicide, figuratively... (if the one point comes from WMC, i'm sure he will suffer from heart attack...) that's good enough for me.
If that one point comes from XD, he will retire from coaching ! Or lose his job. But if China beats Malaysia 5-0, what happens may I know ?
Singapore v Chinese Taipei 1 XD Hendri Kurniawan Saputra/Yujia Li v Chia Hsin Tsai/Shao Chieh Cheng 2 MS Ronald Susilo v Yu Hsing Hsieh 3 WS Li Li v Shao Chieh Cheng 4 MD Hendri Kurniawan Saputra/Hendra Wijaya v Sheng Mu Lee/Chieh Min Fang 5 WD Yanmei Jiang/Yujia Li v Wen Hsing Cheng/Yu Chin Chien Both teams send their big guns for battle. I predict TPE 3 SIN 2 with the XD being the crucial point (even though it's played first)
I think LYB is determined to crush MAS, grind them to sand, bag 'em and send 'em back to KL. What is is about MAS that gets under LYB's skin?
I agree with you the XD is the key as SIN is strong on the men's event and TWN is strong on the ladies'. But there is also a key factor that Shao Chieh Cheng is playing both XD and WS. If SCC gave all out in the XD first, then Li Li, who in normal circumstances have a 45:55 chance of winning may find that the odd could be in her favour if SCC cannot recover fully in stamina. This is unlike SIN XD of Li Yujia who would give up the WD (SIN has slim chance for an upset here) and concentrate on the XD. On this count, I would favour SIN to scrap through narrowly 3:2.
Div 1 Group A Current position: CHN(2,10-0) ENG(1,3-7) MAS(1,5-5) THA(0,2-8) Last ties of the group: CHN v MAS, ENG v THA CHN win, ENG win - CHN(3,x-x) ENG(2,x-x) MAS(1,x-x) CHN lose, ENG lose - MAS(2,x-x) CHN(2,x-x) THA(1,x-x) CHN win, ENG lose CHN 5-0, ENG 2-3 - CHN(3,15-0) ENG,MAS,THA(1,5-10) - total sets won-lost tiebreak (etc.) for ENG, MAS and THA CHN 5-0, ENG 1-4 - CHN(3,15-0) THA(1,6-9) MAS(1,5-10) CHN 5-0, ENG 0-5 - CHN(3,15-0) THA(1,7-8) MAS(1,5-10) CHN 4-1, ENG 2-3 - CHN(3,14-1) MAS(1,6-9) THA(1,5-10) CHN 4-1, ENG 1-4 - CHN(3,14-1) MAS(1,6-9) THA(1,6-9) CHN 4-1, ENG 0-5 - CHN(3,14-1) THA(1,7-8) MAS(1,6-9) CHN 3-2, ENG 2-3 - CHN(3,13-2) MAS(1,7-8) THA(1,5-10) CHN 3-2, ENG 1-4 - CHN(3,13-2) MAS(1,7-8) THA(1,6-9) CHN 3-2, ENG 0-5 - CHN(3,13-2) MAS(1,7-8) THA(1,7-8) Good news for Malaysia is that it is very difficult for them to finish bottom, even given a 5-0 loss to China. But avoiding a 5-0 drubbing will make real sure. If England lose, there is a considerable chance they finish bottom. CHN lose, ENG win - highly unlikely, THA finish bottom CHN 2-3, ENG 5-0 - CHN(2,12-3) ENG(2,8-7) MAS(2,8-7) CHN 2-3, ENG 4-1 - CHN(2,12-3) MAS(2,8-7) ENG(2,7-8) CHN 2-3, ENG 3-2 - CHN(2,12-3) MAS(2,8-7) ENG(2,6-9) CHN 1-4, ENG 5-0 - CHN(2,11-4) MAS(2,9-8) ENG(2,8-7) CHN 1-4, ENG 4-1 - CHN(2,11-4) MAS(2,9-8) ENG(2,7-8) CHN 1-4, ENG 3-2 - CHN(2,11-4) MAS(2,9-8) ENG(2,6-9) CHN 0-5, ENG 5-0 - MAS(2,10-5) CHN(2,10-5) ENG(2,8-7) CHN 0-5, ENG 4-1 - MAS(2,10-5) CHN(2,10-5) ENG(2,7-8) CHN 0-5, ENG 3-2 - MAS(2,10-5) CHN(2,10-5) ENG(2,6-9)
The current situation in Group B in terms of matches won/loss: KOR 7-3 INA 6-4 DEN 4-6 HKG 3-7 So, KOR will top the group if they beat DEN. If INA beat HKG 4-1 and DEN beat KOR 3-2, the situation will be: INA 10-5 KOR 9-6 DEN 7-8 HKG 4-11 In this case, INA will top the group and KOR will be runner-up. Am I right in saying that?
It is about LCW challenging LD,BAO,CJ and CY. It is about Li Mao being hired before as coach. It is about KKK-TBH giving CAI-FU the beating in several big tournaments and potentially more in the future. It is also about the annoyance Malaysian fans gave him about his shouting to BAO to break LCW's leg. And more except my memory cannot recall !
Provided that Thailand beats England 3-2, Malaysia should still earn a semifinal berth based on countback. I am sure you would be praying hard that Thailand does Malaysia a favour. Gut feeling, Malaysia stands a slim chance of handing China their first defeat since 2003 in Sudirman Cup. China has topped Group A without much challenges (unless Malaysia wins by a 5-0 margin) and they may take the consequences for taking the tie against Malaysia lightly.
well, just accept it ! MAS is going to play in classification maybe 5 - 6 placing..just glad we able to maintain in Group 1...for the coming S cup..and remember!...this is the first time MAS play in Group 1...U know...experient wise we are lacking..in this competetion...compared to ENG and THA...they have played in group one for so many times...already...think positive...OK!
Guys, if CHN lose and ENG win, both will still go thru at the expense of MAS. When 3 teams are tied on ties won, the winner is taken from the total matches won and lost, if tied, then the total games won and lost (that would be CHN). The runnerup is taken from the winner of the match between the other two (ENG and MAS). Doesn't matter if MAS beat CHN 5-0 and ENG beat THA 3-2. taufik-ist, similarly, in your scenario, INA will be champs and DEN will join them in 2nd place (by virtue of beating KOR).
Bloody hell , did you get your degree in Stats or something Would be all for nought if CHN won (as they're expected to) and ENG won
