2007 Sudirman Cup – Day 3 - Wednesday

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  1. LI De Quan

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    2007 Sudirman Cup – Day 3 - Wednesday

    INA 4-1 HK :(YPY for HK)

    KOR 3-2 DEN :(Gade for DEN and all three doubles for KOR.Maybe Hwang
    Hye Youn or Lee Yun Hwa can win over Rasmussen, Tine )

    SIN 2-3 TP :(Susilo, Ronald or Lee, Kendrick can get a point for SIN
    while CSC will win over LI Li or XING Aiying,I think;And MX for SIN
    because they have Saputra, Hendri Kurniawan/Li, Yujia;WD and MD all
    goes to TP)

    GER 4-1 SWD:( WD )

    JPN 5-0 RUS

    POL ?-? NED(NED singles can take thier games)

    (Ed: Live scoring link:

    http://tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=15280&day=122000

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  2. LI De Quan

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    Sudirman Cup Div 1 - Group A
    Sudirman Cup Div 1 - Group A
    Ranking
     

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    My Hope for SIN.
    SIN 3 TP 2 (Men's singles, Men's double, Mixed Doubles).
    Also rooting for Li Li to win in case of any hiccup. TP Ladies double may be too strong for SIN.
     
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    enlighten me, please...
    from the chart above...

    MAS scores more points than ENG...
    but why does ENG still ahead of MAS...

    i mean, look at INA..although they lost to KOR, and DEN won over HK, INA scores more than DEN, and ahead of DEN too...

    confuse..........
     
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    why m'sia ranked no.3 while england ranked no.2, since m'sia is better if compared in matches won & lost, games won & lost, points won & lost
     
  6. LI De Quan

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    MAS lost to England , 3-2
    So England ranked NO.2

    INA beat DEN yesterday ,
    So INA ranked NO.2
     
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    Taufik , Taufik , Taufik
     

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    oic...
    then, MAS will only be no.2...if THA beats ENG, or MAS beats CHN...

    is it?

    if THA beats ENG, let say 3-4 and MAS lost to CHN, let say 2-3, would ENG still be no.2....? not necessary, rite...the 2nd place will be determined based on the points secured, right.....?
     
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    not is it if the points is same, then it will be automatically compared the matches or game or points win & lose to determine the ranking??
     
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    OK, someone who REALLY knows, please clarify the tiebreaker rules. Is the first tiebreaker head to head result or games won/lost?

    I've tried googling but to no avail. There's gotta be someone out there who actually knows. Proof would be good too :)
     
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    Very confusing ranking. The tournament organiser should state the rules clearly in the web page:confused:.
    Anyway, I still hope Thai bt Eng so that M'sia goes thro to semi-final.
    And . . . . SIN to play Japan and win promotion.
     
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    Tommorrow day 4, CHN Vs MAS got live in CCTV 5, right? hooray.....Day 3 any live cast...in Web TV?
     
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    http://www.internationalbadminton.org/PDF - Regulations/214 SUDIRMAN CUP REGULATIONS.pdf

    5.5 Ranking order in the sub-groups

    5.5.1 If two teams have won the same number of ties, the ranking will be decided by the result of the tie between them.

    5.5.2 If three or more teams have won the same number of ties, ranking will be decided by the total number of matches won. If this leaves two teams equal, ranking will be decided by the result of the tie between them.

    5.5.3 If three or more teams have won the same number of ties and the same number of matches, ranking will be decided by the difference between total games won and total games lost, with greater difference ranked higher. If this leaves two teams equal, ranking will be decided by the result of the tie between them.

    5.5.4 If three or more teams have won the same number of ties and the same number of matches and have the same difference between total games won and total games lost, ranking will be decided by the difference between total points won and total points lost, with greater difference ranked higher. If this leaves two teams equal, ranking will be decided by the result of the tie between them.

    5.5.5 If three or more teams have won the same number of ties and the same number of matches, have the same difference between total games won and total games lost, and have the same difference between total points won and total points lost, ranking will be decided by drawing lots.
     
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    If I am not mistaken, the rules follow Thomas/Uber Cup.

    If 2 teams have equal no of ties won, the head to head winner is ranked higher. Eg. 1992 Thomas Cup, KOR and MAS lead their group with equal no of ties won, MAS had more matches won, but KOR beat MAS in their group tie. Therefore KOR topped the group and MAS 2nd.

    If 3 or more teams have equal no of ties won, the countback will be on matches, then sets, then points. So, if MAS and ENG lose their next ties, there will be 3 way tie between MAS, ENG and THA. Similarly, if MAS and ENG win, there will also be a 3 way tie between MAS, ENG and CHN.

    And as much as I would like MAS to qualify, they don't deserve a semis berth on account of the loss to ENG.
     
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    Thanks, Dmitry. That clears up a lot.
     
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    Thank Dmitry, that is the evidence we needed. No more speculation necessary.
     
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    in other words...
    MAS no longer has a chance to reach SF..
    because even if ENG is beaten by THA, they have 1 win, 2 loses.. if MAS is beaten by CHN, MAS has 1 win, 2 loses as well..
    so, the ranking will be determined by the tie between them..

    it means ENG will go through as ENG won the match against MAS....

    huwaaaa.....
    there goes my dream...
    huhu...
     
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    No, it depends on the final scores from tomorrow's matches. I'll let you work it out...;)
     
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    eh wait...no...MAS still has the chance...if THA beats ENG, then three teams: ENG,MAS and THA have 1 win 2 loses...the same number of tie...
    meaning, the ranked will be determine by the number of matches won, rite..
    so far, MAS won more matches, even sets and points than ENG and THA...

    MAS still has the chance....

    better pray hard......
     

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