2 Knots and 4 Knots

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by ants, Oct 30, 2003.

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how many knots is your rackets strung at?

  1. 2 knots

    11 vote(s)
    31.4%
  2. 4 knots.

    25 vote(s)
    71.4%
  3. fancy knots (ie. more than 4 knots)

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    2.9%
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  1. LazyBuddy

    LazyBuddy Regular Member

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    1. Wether u can pre-string racket, depend on the machine. Usually, lower end drop weight machine could NOT pre-string.

    2. Usually, it's easier to cut the string into 2 pieces 1st. Most brand, the main should be 17 ft, and cross should be 16ft.

    3. Gromments have different sizes, depend on the location.

    4. www.badmintonalley.com or www.hiquasports.com

    5. Depend on how often u use it, and how u use it (how hard the strokes, how often u do slice, etc)
     
  2. taneepak

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    Answers:
    1. You cut the string into two pieces first.
    2. There are many ways of determining the length for cutting. Some use the racquet length, others use their arms, or you can simply cut the string into two pieces where one piece is 18' 8" for the main and the other piece for the cross. Different racquets require different length, the oval ones less than the Iso, but if you cut one piece to 18' 8", it will fit almost all racquets.
    3. No.
    4. You can buy grommets but you need a grommet tool to use it. Also some of the newer racquets come with soft bell-shaped grommet for 2 strings to pass through; such grommets are to remove and replace, and they require heat to induce them to form the bell shape..
    5. This is difficult to say. For consistent performance you should restring once every 1-2 months.
     
  3. Disconbobulated

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    I'm yet to be convinced about the need for 4 knot stringing.
    The only advantage you get is that you can string your crosses from Top to throat. IMHO I always feel that the throat is generally the strongest part of the head& can take the first crosses without deforming too much.
    Actually there is a secondary advantage and that is you have less string to pull through when stringing the mains as you are dealing with a shorter piece of string.
    I will be stringing "Around the world" until someone can convince me otherwise.......

    Good debate though...
     
  4. jug8man

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    i can relate to this. once someone brought a racquet to change the grip. i noticed that i could only find 3 knots on the racquet. since the guy was in a hurry i had no chance to dissect the racquet and find the hidden 4th knot. its still bugging me to this day cause my curiosity is not satisfied. im sure its a 4 knot job but i really want to know where it's hidden.... for sure. i really wish he wanted to restring the racquet but he only wanted the grip changed.... :(

    oh well.
     
  5. Malik

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    Yonex Armortec 800 OF, bg80 @ 36lbs, 2 knots
     
  6. Big Daddy

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    With 2 knot strings I find that the last mains on the side used for the tie off is always slacker than on the opposite side, but whether this affects play or not may be purely psychological. On Yonex rackets I currently favour 2-piece stringing, for this reason, but I string my mains from the bottom up as I find the racket has not only distorts less into an egg shape but plays better.

    Non - yonex rackets I have been stringing one piece with 23 crosses, as this is how they are supplied pre-strung in the shops; although I am considering 2-piece stringing in the future as the wider grommets on these rackets would allow the bottom cross to be tied off on bottom grommet 9 quite easily, even though it has to share this hole with 2 other strings.

    I haven't tried RTW stringing as I can't visualise how it can be performed tidily without running a fairly large section of string on the outside of the frame.
     
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    *faints* u got an arm of steel i may add :)
     
  8. hongyi_2000

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    haha...i once gone crazy also...MP-100 32Lbs 2knobts...now back to my sweet 24-25~Lbs 2knobt:)
     
  9. jug8man

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    hehe. i dont have this problem :)

    i think the problem will be solved once you practice more with the method and start to realize the small details relevent to each method/pattern of stringing.
    the tie-off and knott quality is also an important factor here.


    cheers

    jug
     
  10. Neil Nicholls

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    By RTW do you mean 1-piece with crosses from top to bottom?
     
  11. jug8man

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    yup. RTW is the method to string using 1 piece but crosses top to bottom.

    if it was strung bottom up it would simply be called 1 piece stringing.

    the is the 'alternative' method used to those who believe stringing crosses top to bottom is safer than bottom up without having to use 2 pieces of string.... i wonder who sold them that idea? :confused:
     
  12. AZNJORDAN69

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    Strung with 4 nots

    strung my MP99 with BG 88ti @ 25 punds i have been using 4 nots for a while
     
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    Look carefully and u may find that most SGrean here Had their rackets strung @ 2 knots... hmm.. personally i feel that a 2 knots stringing is more flexible and have more repulsion power... for a 4 knots i tink the tension between main and cross is nt linked.. therefore, its stiffer and unable to generate the repulsion power as well as a 2 knots.. i don't know about the real logic.. but that's all IMO. maybe its the difference between the stringers..:confused: currently i have more den 10 rackets strung @ 2knots.. while only 2 strung @ 4knots(non-locally strung).
    i do stringing job myself and i strung @ 2 knots too.. :eek:
     
  14. ants

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    Just a question for those player/stringer. Which one do you think provides more power?
     
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    Two knots. Definitely.
     
  16. Neil Nicholls

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    no difference.
    also definitely.
     
  17. ants

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    Personally i think 2 knots provides more power compare to 4 knots. But it also depends on the way you string your racket. I can't explain in details, but i do believe the energy transfer from the 2 knots string bed is more than 4 knots.
     
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    mines a at500 23X21 lbs 4 knot
     
  19. Pete LSD

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    Are you comparing both methods at the same tension main and cross wise?

     
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    Is it okay to string my ns8000 at 22x24 with 4 knots?????
     

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