OT: I have laughed my arse off many a times at the stuff on Engrish.com. http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?i...daily.jpg&category=Containers&date=2006-02-24 http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=toothbrush.jpg&category=Toiletries&date=2004-01-09
I think your attached pic of bg80 is not from a real package of bg80. Those description matches the yonex US site but not described on the package itself. Real packaging don't show color of the string inside. Bg80 labeling that i seen described as giving you 'hard feeling' or 'repulsion' or 'high repulsion', not 'a soft feel on impact and sensitive control'. http://www.distrisport.be/downloads/yonex/2007_Badm_StringsShuttles.pdf That's why i like using bg80, i like that 'hard feeling' it gives
Maybe both types of BG80 are not what they should be. BG80 is soft, not hard, due to the vectran used. Remember vectran is the undisputed material in damping properties-that is why it was used as the landing pad for the Pathfinder mission to Mars. But being soft does not mean it can have a sharp touch-as in the resilience of natural gut. Also BG is 0.68mm not 0.70mm. The 2-layer vectran jacket (not the thin coating) is braided with five filaments per braid, not one as shown in both your pictures. Like its multifilament cousins in the inner core, the more filaments per strand/braid in the jacket the better, otherwise you have a monofilament outer braided jacket, which will make the string hard and less resilient.
I was wrong about BG80 as my earlier description was about the thinner BG85. BG 85 does have multi braided outer (jacket) but BG80 has only a mono (single) braided outer (jacket), the latter for increased durability but at the expense of feel and that sharp touch.
i'm surprised that with your 'technical mind' you came to that conclusion. I still say: -bg80 is bg80, there is only one type of bg80 (excluding fake bg80) -bg80 give 'hard feeling' what u said above contain so much inaccuracies that i don't want to attempt dissecting it for the purpose of debate. We're not at the same level
Cooler, the site you have is all wrong. Better to refer to the official Yonex catalog, which describes BG85 and BG80 as : 1. BG85 : A sharp touch of vectran... delivers high velocity hits yet provide a soft feel on impact. 2. BG80 : An explosive power of vectran... string delivering excellent repulsion performance, a soft feel on impact and sensitive control. The superlative damping property of vectran will not produce a hard feel, unless you put in a steel wire to wind around the string. Maybe the people who wrote that website got things the wrong way round. But most intriguing of all is your experience that BG80 vectran has a hard feeling. If so perhaps, just maybe you have using fake BG80.
u maybe older than me in age but i have been using bg80 longer than u have since the day yonex introduced it. U had been a proponent of bg66 for the longest time and only jumped onto the bg80 bandwagon not too long ago. U r a bg80 noob in my eye. There are lotta noise in various websites on bg80 but unlike me, u can't seem to separate the real info versus marketing info. ** maybe some posters here remembered (from old posts couple years ago?) how taneepak got the repulsion rating of one BG string incorrectly because he had accepted all yonex's marketing content as facts**
found it http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13456&highlight=repulsion example post #11 01-26-2004, 09:20 AM #11 cooler Location: Canada Posts: 11,461 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- better check the data accuracy. I just cant see how bg33 has a repulsion power rating of 9 while bg66 is 8. I dont believe the bg33's RP, S, SA and C numbers either.
BWAAHAHHA you dó realise that pdf file is a DIRECT link from www.yonex.be ? (the official yonex site for belgium holland and luxembourg) just follow *products and then *shuttles & strings BG80 really does feel hard...no matter is vectran dampens or not, the string feels hard...
Well, I used to string all my Vectran racquets with only BG66 and BG85/80 until recently. I now use only ML and PW66 Neon because of special arrangements. I do think I have enough experience on the feel of the real vectran. BTW, I also do have the yearly Yonex catalog published in Japan for Sunrise. If you buy the real BG80 or BG85 from Sunrise you will see a proper description of the feel of the vectran strings in the packet. Perhaps Cooler is getting an American version that is different?
www.yonex.co.uk also uses the phrase "soft feel for sensitive control" http://www.yonex.co.uk/Downloads/YONEX - Badminton Brochure 2006.pdf
Similar to cooler and jerby, my impressions of the BG85 (note: not BG80, I know I am slightly off-topic) are that it provides a "hard" feel. I had been using Toalson Premium 66 on my rackets for a while, but found that it felt too "soft" and I wasn't quite getting the response on net shots that I wanted. Then I tried the BG85 -- I really felt the "hard" feel and rougher texture of the string surface has made a difference in my net play, thus I decided to make the switch from the Toalson.
it has been shown in many occasion that description of yonex products from different regions may and can differ from time to time. Problem is, these are often written by regional distributors, not mother yonex of japan. If in doubt, read the yonex japan version. Yonex engineers/technical staff live in Japan. Regional staff shouldn't be considered technical or marketing savy. eg. ns9kS is the most popular NS series among the pros, why UK yonex don't carry it? disclaimer: i wasn't told of this, i made it ALL up.
