Can you see what is missing?

Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by Viper2005, Dec 19, 2006.

  1. Viper2005

    Viper2005 Regular Member

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    Here is my latest idea, can you spot what is missing?:confused:

    More info & pictures to come later.:D
     

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    um... grommits?

    ... I don't know.
     
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    Latest idea? Why would you want to not use grommets? :| ??
     
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    I asked myself that same question too, but opposite, why do we need grommets?

    All I did was remove all the grommets, use a drill bit to taper off all the holes on both sides to round off all the edges and string it with BG-65 at 22x25lbs. No problems at all.

    Can't wait to try it tonight.


     
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    wouldn't the string get damaged during compression? I think the edges will knick the string.
     
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    More Pictures.

    Here are some more pictures of the grommet-less racket.:)
     

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    damn, you must have had allot of free time!

    haha
     
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    I think this guy is "insain" because the string is going to cut the frame or the
    holes cut the string ,the racket is your's ,you do the way you want,
    I repeat completely silly!
    MING
     
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    Can you explain Compression?

    Each hole is carefully tapered with a drill bit (by hand) to round-off the edges so it won't cut the string.

    I'll play a few games tonite and let you know how it plays.

     
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    INSANE! Well, maybe. Good thing I have lots of old used rackets.:D

    I got the inspiration to try it after I saw the Prince Tennis Racket.

    Prince is using the large grommet-less holes for the top and side.

    I thought it is an excellent idea.
     

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    This one has the big holes on top and side.

    My friend at the Tennis shop strung one at 65lbs and I was surprised the frame didn't break.:eek:
     

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    holy crap that is an awesome racquet! i wish badminton racquets had more innovation.
     
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    coz tennis racket has more meat on its frame.
    A top end badminton racket tensioned at 27 lbs has more stress than a top end tennis racket at 65 lbs. Dinkalot can break badminton racket at even less than 30 lbs.
     
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    Nothing really new.. The Prince More badminton racket series use grommet less system (the idea is to have te strings in direct contact to the frame)..

    /Twobeer
     
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    It looks like the string has a better chance of digging into the frame itself which could eventually lead to it being damaged without the grommets there as a cushion to distribute the pressure.
     
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    Does anyone know the benefits of not having Grommets in Tennis vs Badminton rackets? Less Vibration?

    Just came back from Tennis shop and the racket weight 77g exactly with string.

    Twobeer, what is the benefits of having the string in direct contact to the frame?

     
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    I agree the string may dig into the frame, but only at high tension.
    I will experiment with this racket to find out the tension range before the string eats into the frame. I would expect maybe around 25x28lbs.

     
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    Negative Ghost Rider, you're going to break more string. :p

    Nice innovation Paul, however, I don't think you can compare your work to those tennis rackets because:

    1) Those tennis rackets are drilled precisely. Every angle is consistent; and then the manufacturer uses a few layers of material to coat the edges. You can't do that by hand and doubt you coated it.

    2) The grommet acts as a cushion, as a way to relieve stress from both the string and the frame. The grommet is softer than the racket frame itself, without it, both the frame and string will become less stable.

    3) Without the grommets you are going to get significantly more vibration from the racket frame. It may feel more lively but I feel the drawback will out the benefit. The grommets act like a vibration dampener in tennis.

    4) Something about tennis string has higher relative tolerances than badminton string...can't find the source...
     
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    I have a Pro Ace racquet, i think it is called Evolution 900 or something which does not have grommets in certain parts (12,3,9 o'clock) of the racquet.

    did not really enjoy, the vibration was pretty bad..
     
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    Wow, that's light! My Cab 20 Tour Specials with string weigh 102-105grams. :eek: :p
     

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