KUMAMOTO MASTERS JAPAN 2023

Discussion in '2023 Tournaments' started by Baddyforall, Nov 13, 2023.

  1. Suilven

    Suilven Regular Member

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    Yeah, I am fine with that, just a discussion, “Dance on” so the saying goes.:)
     
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    still I think umpiring in Gemke/Momota match was really crap, umpire called fault only after Momota started appealing to the umpire, which is not allowed as well, then the call should have happened immediately not after Momota's reaction, so two point difference at 16 all is really !@$@#$ and the call was wrong....
     
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    You have a point, I felt the umpire was on Gemke’s case to keep the game moving on occasions which I thought unfair,
    but the damage was done before the latter stage incident, he self imploded,
    at 14-8 and Momota on his knees like a old man, he proceeded to give away 3 cheap points and the momentum and 2nd wind started,
    I agree with and bow to Hassefar60 greater knowledge, maybe he’s not as clear thinking as I thought he is,
    all he needed to do is keep the shuttle alive and move a tiring Momota round the court and finish the point,
    but it’s easier said than done when a rejuvenated Momota took the game by the scruff of the neck by then,
    but his head was all over the place and in desperation he even tried to 2nd guess Momota’s shot,
    great game all the same, thoroughly enjoyed it. :cool:
     
  4. SnowWhite

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    And stuff like that is also why players protest (even Momota, a very respectful player). Even if they're not sure about the call, protesting can only turn out in their favour. It can influence the decision or future decision of the umpire, and there is no downside. So every time there is a close net kill, why not protest? Players will take an advantage if they can get it. If badminton is going to be a more pure, respectful sport, then any attempt to game the system should be punished.

    If a player gets a yellow card when they protest a decision, players will no longer protest at every turn. If any transgression after a yellow got a red (and so a free point for the opponent), matches won't devolve into an irritability contest. If any protest to the service judge or line judges was punished with a yellow card, every single time, then it won't happen.

    If a receiver puts their hand up after the opponent served, and the umpire doesn't call a let (therefore losing the receiver the point assuming the serve fell in), then the receiver will definitely make sure to be ready for every serve to come for the rest of the match. Of course any attempt by the opponent to catch the receiver off guard by serving too fast should be similarly punished by the umpire with a red card. If this was implemented, suddenly all the players will make sure they are ready in time to receive, and the server will respectfully wait for the receiver be ready. Right now, there is no downside to trying to game the service situation, because the worst thing that can happen is a let and a warning.

    And what is the ratio of players using a medical timeout tactically, to players using it as intended? 9:1? 14:1? Get rid of it. Such a medical timeout is not necessary. 99% of the time, a player can feel whether their injury is too grave to continue, and in the remaining 1%, they should decide if the occasion is big enough to play through the pain and risk it, or retire to be safe. The medical timeouts are a farce anyway. Most doctors walk on court expecting to spray something rather than actually performing an evaluation.

    The only thing is that if the umpires can exercise more power, their impartiality needs to be perfect.
     
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    Good points made Snowey, the bit I selected is the major ball ache of mine.
     
  6. LjS4

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    cyf has been on a roll since that loss at the asian games. toying with marin at the moment

    let's see what happen in the 2nd game
     
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    it's not a carolina marin's match if the umpire didn't say, "carolina, return the shuttle properly!"
     
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    If only YJM had played more patiently then she would have won the match.
    It was very clear that GMT's stamina and agility were overwhelming against YJM.
    After all this time, why does PBSI still not seem to have succeeded in fixing this condition?
     
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    I love this Japan crowd. Very enthusiastic even during R32,R16. Today, it looks like they invited the school kids for a full stadium. Way to promote badminton! That’s what should be done during Canada and US Open. Invite the students for free field trip. It can really help the sport taken over by Pickleball.
     
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    Carolina Marin is muted by Chen Yu Fei. No normal loud shouting heard from Marin. The wolf has been trashed badly by Chen Yu Fei.
     
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    when you think about it, marin was kinda lucky that she won majority of big titles against non retrievers on her way to the title. she had a bad record against okuhara (who was the best retriever at the time), lost in 2015 ssf, 2016 ae, then 2017 wc. i knew she was smiling as soon as okuhara lost that sf match in rio against sindhu
     
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    Is sun jun not here with SYQ?
     
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    so CYF is Marin's kryptonite.....ouchie
     
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    some of these lifts from syq were amazing, momota played a perfect tight net shot and somehow syq still got it back with correct length
     
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    Interesting to watch the SF between An Se Young and Chen Yu Fei, who has been a beneficiary of An Se Young's absence for the 2 tournaments she won. Chen Yu Fei's confidence has grown with that two titles while An Se Young is just back from medical layoff and is tentative in play in 1st game so far.
     
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    it's hard for momota to get a point unless syq is making an unforced error
     
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    The only weakness to SYQ is his stamina, apart from that his techniques gameplay are far superior to KM. But glad to see KM reaching QF after winning Korean masters!
     
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    Is SYQ the best player momota played since his first game in korea?
     
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    Yes. Totally different game as compared to when KM is playing the top 50 players
     
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    KM’s only chance right now is to drag out the rallies against SYQ, to go straight up against him is just trapping himself
     

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