2018 HSBC BWF World Tour Final: Race to Guangzhou

Discussion in '2018 Tournaments' started by minions, Oct 28, 2018.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. kumar1222

    kumar1222 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2017
    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    19
    Location:
    Malaysia
    usually the world ranking will be released on thursday hence 25/11 doesnt make sense here. Might be 29/11
     
  2. azerez

    azerez Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2018
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    92
    Location:
    jakarta
    Maiken/Sara out of the race
     
  3. CLELY

    CLELY Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    Messages:
    13,780
    Likes Received:
    4,673
    Location:
    Jkt-Indo
    There's confusion here, BWF normally will update the ranking every Thursday, maybe the exceptional case for World Tour Finals that they will release the latest WR soon after the final match in Lucknow and Glasgow completed (Sunday, 25 November 2018).
     
  4. azerez

    azerez Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2018
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    92
    Location:
    jakarta
    with Chen Long out of the Race, Kantaphon guaranteed place in WT final
     
  5. azerez

    azerez Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2018
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    92
    Location:
    jakarta
    JC beat Ginting, things get interesting. he still need to win the tournament though.
     
    #105 azerez, Nov 15, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2018
  6. event

    event Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,901
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Korea
    It is true that Kantaphon is guaranteed a place in the final but it is unrelated to Chen Long. Chen couldn't catch him. Of the 5 players who still could catch him, all but Sameer Verma need to win the Hong Kong Open to catch him so he is in for sure. By the way, that was true even with Ginting still in the race. You had Ginting and Verma able to reach the final in Hong Kong and still catch Kantaphon but Son, Nishimoto, and Srikanth all need to win Hong Kong to pass him.
     
  7. event

    event Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,901
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Korea
    The BWF already confirmed that Syed Modi and Scottish Open are the last chances. As for the funny ranking date, the BWF has done this before, made a one-time exception to the publishing of rankings and having them come out before Thursday. They will still likely call them the November 29th rankings but they will just calculate them faster to get the show on the road. They've done it before to issue invitations for the Superseries Finals. True, I've never seen them do it on a Sunday, but they have done it on Monday or Tuesday. Badminton Central, Badzine, and Gill Clark will all have the standings figured out during the podium ceremonies so the BWF can too. In any case, only a maximum of 1 invitation can depend on the Scottish Open results so almost everything will be finalized in India.
     
    #107 event, Nov 15, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2018
    CLELY likes this.
  8. event

    event Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,901
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Korea
    The Stoeva sisters have already clinched mathematically. Du/Li need to reach the final in Hong Kong to pass them and Haris/Pradipta need to win their last two tournaments but they are in the same half of the draw. That means whichever pair doesn't make the final in Hong Kong gets only 6420 points and can't pass the sisters.
     
    azerez likes this.
  9. Master

    Master Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2016
    Messages:
    2,145
    Likes Received:
    1,163
    Location:
    somewhere on earth
    Badzine has published article about World Tour Finals qualification.

    WTF – 2 more weeks, 3 more tournaments, 14 more spots

    7 of 8 Guangzhou spots in mixed doubles have already been decided, along with 4 of 8 in men’s singles and 5 of 8 clinched in the other three disciplines. Unlike last year, when the Hong Kong Open cast the final ballots, this year 2 more tournaments will remain, the Syed Modi Super 300 and the Scottish Open Super 100, though the latter only offers a ray of hope to exactly two challengers. The BWF confirmed this week that the Gwangju Korea Masters will not count as it finishes less than 2 weeks before proceedings kick off in Guangzhou.

    The China Open caused very little change in the list of tentative qualifiers – just 4 changes across the 5 disciplines – but it did make for a drastic reduction in the number of hopeful ascendants. With all of the pertinent Hong Kong Open mixed doubles first round completed, the chase packs range from 2 in women’s doubles and singles to 9 in men’s singles, with several of the bottom entries on these lists expected to drop off early this week.

    You could see the complete list and their analysis here: http://www.badzine.net/2018/11/wtf-2-more-weeks-3-more-tournaments-14-more-spots/
     
  10. minions

    minions Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2018
    Messages:
    2,938
    Likes Received:
    823
    Location:
    Indonesia
    I just read some news that says Korea Masters will be included in the Race to Guangzhou? What's happen there?
     
  11. event

    event Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,901
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Korea
    Perhaps someone who is uninformed? The rules have been on the books for a while but that doesn't mean everyone read the fine print. It was an easy assumption to make that since it is a Super 300 it would be included and it was just last week that the BWF actually named a date that made it clear the Korea Masters was excluded.

    I'm still waiting to hear player reactions. Have any of those Thais and Indonesians who no one expected to register for the Korea Masters talked about whether they thought they could earn points there toward Guangzhou?
     
  12. badminton fancier

    badminton fancier Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2018
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Sydney
    Hey not sure my calculation is correct but it seems that mathematically TakaMatsu isnow qualified for the final taking into account that Syed Modi is counted towards Race to Guangzhou. The difference points between them and FukuHiro now is 3270. Let's say FukuHiro wins HK title and TakaMatsu only reaches QF (which is already), they will gain 9200 and 5040 respectively, which gives FukuHiro 890 points more than TakaMatsu, but since TakaMatsu will play Syed Modi, they will gain 1670 at round 32 so that means at this stage they are already qualified?
     
  13. Master

    Master Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2016
    Messages:
    2,145
    Likes Received:
    1,163
    Location:
    somewhere on earth
    The rules and the Entry Deadline date may present to be a reference for that reason why Korea Master doesn't included in. BUT still BWF themselves that make a blunder with their website saying as below:

    If then Korea Master won't be included, I believe there will be a mass withdraw from top players.

    Don't you remember with the previous wording in their website about Super 100 tournament to be included or not for Road to Guangzhou?
    It seems they fixed it by now BUT they faced another problem likely.


    Where do you read it?
     
  14. event

    event Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,901
    Likes Received:
    278
    Location:
    Korea
    Not exactly. Your calculations are correct but they could get injured or otherwise drop out.
     
  15. badminton fancier

    badminton fancier Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2018
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Sydney
    Yeah so TakaMatsu needs to actually attend the first round match to be qualified regardless of their results.
     
  16. minions

    minions Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2018
    Messages:
    2,938
    Likes Received:
    823
    Location:
    Indonesia
    No, TakaMatsu will only confirmed to be qualified if they reach SF. Syed Modi International doesn't even begin, don't make assumption that they will definitely play. Expect the unexpected.
     
  17. minions

    minions Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2018
    Messages:
    2,938
    Likes Received:
    823
    Location:
    Indonesia
  18. Master

    Master Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2016
    Messages:
    2,145
    Likes Received:
    1,163
    Location:
    somewhere on earth
    It's the same link with the previously posted above by @azerez

    It's remain unchanged 1 hour ago when I read it as I quoted from the same link above. So, I can confirmed that they've just changed it today.

    The last edited version:
    BUT still there is a different thing about WR ranking date November 29, instead of November 25 (as mentioned here). So, I guess that Nov 29 is the correct one. The usual schedule for ranking release cycle.
     
    #119 Master, Nov 15, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2018
  19. badminton fancier

    badminton fancier Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2018
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Sydney
    Yupp gud luck to them today then
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page