Anybody know the name of this knot?

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  1. FeatherBlaster

    FeatherBlaster Regular Member

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    On topic:

    I do double Parnell on BGAS, and perhaps this knot is better/easier to do, so I'm tempted to switch, or at least try it out.

    But I'm a bit in doubt if my "Double Parnell" is the same as yours "Double Parnells"?

    If I'm doing a Parnell, I do two loops, pulling the 2nd loop through itself and the first loop. Then tighten the loop by tightening the 2nd loop, then tightening the "out-string".

    When I do BGAS, that knot is too small, so I do "Double Parnell". By that, I mean 3 loops instead of 2. But I find it pretty easy to do, so I'm afraid I'm not doing it right (or perhaps you guys are overdoing it :) ).

    I do a regular Parnell first. But after tightening the first loop by pulling the 2nd, I do a 3rd loop, pulling that through itself and loop 2.

    So loop 3 is not going through loop 1.

    Is that the same as you guys do?

    It doesn't produce the fattest of knots, but it's a bit fatter than regular Parnell, and also "longer", and it sticks even on BGAS. It's so easy to do (it's more or less like doing one and a half Parnell).
     
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    I really like this knot. Very easy to remember and cinch up, looks neat and keeps the tail pointing down.

    IMG_20170130_093805.jpg
     
  3. Mark A

    Mark A Regular Member

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    This one looks like a keeper - if it'll hold my string at my tension it will hold anything.
     
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    Back to kwun knot for me, seems to get more slack out between clamp and knot.
     
  5. eckonovember

    eckonovember Regular Member

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    I was stringing the other day so I took a video of the kickback after releasing the cam (Victor BS12 w/ BG80 @ 24/26):

     
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    Mark A Regular Member

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    ^Doesn't seem to be very much at all, there.
     
  7. FeatherBlaster

    FeatherBlaster Regular Member

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    Then you should see the kick back on @ucantseeme Winex "pro job". It moved like 1 mm. And he didn't even tie a knot :)

    LOL

    Cheers,
    FB
     
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    This offends me. If you have a problem, feel free to pm if it's worth to talk about...
     
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    Sorry sir. No offense intended at all.

    My humor is slightly off today (no sleep due to Super Bowl).

    What I meant to say was that the tension probably has a huge impact on how much the string gives when tying a knot. And your last job in the "tension thread" was that 8 kg one :)

    I just guessed, with a smile, that no special knot was needed for that.

    Have a nice evening, never mind me.



    Cheers,
    FB
     
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    Aaaaand back to your good old self? :)
     
  11. EpicBlue

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    Looks pretty similar to a PC knot.

     
  12. eckonovember

    eckonovember Regular Member

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    That is very similar! The only difference is that the tail doesn't wrap around the anchor string before pulling it through the final loop...I'm going try that one out next time.
     
  13. Mark A

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    I tried the PC knot and didn't like it for badminton - sank into the grommet too much. Monofilament tennis string? You bet. The horsehair we use... nah.

    Just comparing the OP knot in my racket to the pics I took of the fresh one - two sessions, no movement whatsoever. Have to try pulling even harder on it next time to see if I can get it further into the grommet.
     
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    This knot is a tie of variant of the Bulky Knot

     
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    I've used this bulky tie-off knot for the last ~50 rackets and I will keep doing so in the future. It's just a great knot - easy to tie, not too big and still doesn't sink into the grommet at all. And on top of it, it's easy to get out the slack.

    Here's to show the snap back I get at a tension of 13 kg with LN1:


    I was using the Gudgeon/Toshi knot before and had several times the issue with LN1, that the outer layer separated from the core when I tied the knot. Didn't do any harm, but that stripped tail just didn't look nice. Never had the same issue again with the Bulky knot eversince.
     
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  16. BadBadmintonPlayer

    BadBadmintonPlayer Regular Member

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    You use the same knot in the video for start and end knots?
     
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    s_mair Regular Member

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    I normally string 1-piece, so I don't need a starting knot. ;)
     
  18. yan.v

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    I've been using the starting knot since my first days and never had the need to change, it is a great knot! I might test the tie off version some day, I suspect it will be as great as the starting version!
     
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    I honestly didn't know knots could look THIS nice till I tied this a few times.

    Safe to say I'm a big fan.
     
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    I learned to string from her! This knot is useable for any tie-off, but I don't really like it for starting crosses; I use a double toshi which works pretty good.
     
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