International Camps

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  1. Zuccini

    Zuccini New Member

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    Hello all!

    Sorry if this is not the suitable place(subforum) to post this.

    I'm currently a high schooler in the US who loves badminton! I've been playing for around two years now, and I have been training at a pretty reputable place. I play a LOT. I'm planning on spending around two weeks at an international camp over the summer, but I'm having trouble looking for a good camp. I considered Taufik Arena, but that is for 30 days, not two weeks. I also looked at Nusa Mahsuri, but I think that's only for professionals, and I can't read what it's website is saying. Can any of you recommend me a camp?

    TLDR: Any good international camps?
     
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    I think you can ask Taufik Hidayat arena if they have two weeks. These things are flexible. The main thing is the first week would be acclimatising to the humidity.

    Peter Gade has just started an academy in Denmark for training stints so you can enquire there.
     
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    Yea I just saw on Peter Gade's instagram that he started an academy. I'm not totally sure he offers housing + food though. I'll try emailing the Taufik Hidayat Arena if they have two weeks. The humidity is pretty stupid, I went to China to play in December, and my timing was totally off for a day or two. When I came back, my coach got pretty pissed that I couldn't even hit clears until after an hour of playing.

    Thanks!
     
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    This is normal unless you have a lot of experience playing in different conditions.

    Where in China did you play?
     
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    Cheung,

    I guess I can e-mail them, but do you know whats the cost for the 30-day training program?

    Thanks.
     
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    Not a clue. You can email them. any quote would be more accurate than mine.
     
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    I went to Beijing to play for around a week. The location was labeled as an ice skating rink, but they actually had badminton and tennis courts there as well.
     
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    I guess this is where I plug my badminton training camp in China July 14-22nd. :D

    One week includes hotel, training, all court fees and lunches (and a few dinners) as well as translators and a bunch of other stuff. It's in Xiamen China, one of the cleanest, least polluted cities in China so breathing isn't a problem, haha. But located in the south so, like, Florida style weather in the summer and courts don't have a/c if humidity is a problem for you.

    You can check out more information here!
     
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    I'll check it out! Do the players get full access to the courts at all times?
    Also, what's the mosquito condition there? (haha)
    Playing in China a bit awkward as despite my Chinese appearance, my Chinese has a bit of an American accent. I am also not fluent in the badminton terms in Chinese, but I learned a few after playing in Beijing.
     
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    The camp is actually for foreigners who can't speak Chinese (but want to train in china) so sounds like your ahead of the game already. There will be translators at the courts during training for people who can't speak any Chinese.
    And springtime kinda sucks for mosquitoes but the summer heat keeps them sleepy so July isn't so bad, haha.

    And yeah, the head coach of the training is also the court owner so if you really want to keep at it after training, there will always be a court available. And at night everyone is invited to come play with my club members for free.
     
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    Do you have more specific details ?

    Where (location) in Beijing ?

    How did you arrange it?

    Was it actual training with coaches or just social play?

    Were they friendly?

    What was the experience like?
     
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    I've just found these things:
    Badminton Camp by Setia Badminton Academy, Malaysia
    http://www.setiabadminton.com.my/
    Flyer : http://www.setiabadminton.com.my/download/Badminton_Camp_MEMO_JUNE_2018.pdf
    Some previous overseas trainee there : http://www.setiabadminton.com.my/download/overseas-trainee.pdf
    (and I found Saina Nehwal has ever there...)

    One more is located in North Carolina, so it's not going to abroad. :D
    http://badmintonnc.com/badminton camp 2018/index.html

    One forum member mentioned the price of Taufik Hidayat Arena 30-days package here.
     
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    Hi , THA also does training on a daily basis. You can avail the daily option. Call them and check with them.
     
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    Actually, this should not be a problem. Everyone has an accent and improving language and badminton go hand in hand. You may not decide on China but language should not be the reason if you have some basic knowledge of Mandarin.
     
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    Where about in California are you? There're quite a few badminton academy here these days. Have you checked them out yet, before you spend so much traveling afar for training there with coaches and players of unfamiliar/unknown quality?
     
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    I'm in the bay area, and I train at bintang.

    I kind of want to spend a week or two living at the location and only having badminton on my mind. If I wanted, I could just stay here because I already train 10 hours a week.
     
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    Bintang already has some pretty good coaches. And you know their quality (and most likely those who would train with you in a camp). You also have good options in other academes (though I'm not sure if Bintang may have restrictions). You could go a little farther, to LA training with Tony Gunawan, or close to home with Halim in EastBay, or Howard at Synergy, or the two new Malaysia jr champions coaches at CBA.

    In any case, the travel and accommodation expenses could be put to private lessons everyday, if you want. You could book up a Singles specialist to work on Singles, and then a Doubles Specialist to work on Doubles (preferably with your regular partner). That's 2-2.5 hours on top of your 2 hours group classes per day.

    Find a friend or two to squeeze in more practice in between (or games to apply what you practice). Go to fitness center to add physical/weight. Bay area's climate is probably better than many other places for badminton. When you get home, you could watch some high-level matches in Youtube. Here you go, you've a program filled with good badminton, but more reliable and affordable.

    But if your main goal is to travel/visit another place, then of course that would be a different story.
     
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    There is one more consideration - your current fitness vs. training intensity.

    How many hours of intense daily training you could endure? Have you done this before (with full day training, for a week)? If you plan to work on footwork, rather than the very basic stand-still hand skills, can you keep the intensity up to rip expected result?

    Staying local allows you to spread your training schedule, e.g. to do 1 extra hour of private lesson a day, or if you like 2 hours every other day, and so on. And if you're interested in a boost over the summer, why stop with just 2 weeks of (intensified) training?
     
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    I def agree with you on a logic point of view, but sometimes what is really needed is a new place where you have no cares and no worries and can just focus entirely on badminton. Like, if you stay at home you still have too many responsibilities and other things you can/should do, so you can't train as focused when staying at home.

    Last summer I went back to America and for a week I did a training camp in Boston. I stayed at a friends house and in the mornings I would relax. In the afternoons I would train and I'd go back to my friends house broken and exhausted and could only take a shower and eat dinner before crashing into bed. I would never have been able to endure that at my home if I had to make my own food, do the dishes, answer my e-mail, deal with my friends wanting to hang out, go shopping at the store etc.

    That's why it is nice to go away somewhere where the banalities of your day are taken care of and you can just focus on training. Any good training camp should push you past what you think you can handle physically. (Push you but stop before you hurt yourself of course.) In daily life you can't push yourself that hard because you still need to do other things before/after training.
     
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    I'd think the cited "problems" could be resolved quite easily. The OP is now in HS. Presumably his schooling and this training trip that would easily cost a few thousand dollars, if it ever takes place, are supported by his parents. If he should be away, the housework at home won't get done by him anyway. Same with hanging out with friends. All OP needs to do is to have agreement with his parents, and tell his friends he won't be able to hang out with them till 2 weeks later (because...).

    I've seen some people trying to prepare for a tournament by playing 4-5 hours everyday, for example. I notice their games become snoopy after first 2-3 hours every day. And some eventually injured themselves in the process. If training is way too intense/hard that it compromises intensity, perhaps it's not as effective as it is intended. Injury would certain lead to regression.
     

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