Current training regime

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  1. Jooji

    Jooji New Member

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    love this. My training is that of a complete beginner in badminton, I am trying to learn the shots and also want to learn how to get quicker on the court.

    I really want to get a watch or band to track my steps while I train and play. I am thinking of getting the xiaomi band or a fitbit. Not sure which one yet.

    I am blogging about my coaching/training and my experience so far at:

    www.badmintonchronicles.com
     
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    I haven't updated my training regime because, well, I haven't really been training badminton :D

    I continue with other gym and HIIT exercises. I do some badminton routines and people look at me thinking, "bloody 'eck he's fit"

    I play games and concentrate on getting my racquet up. I have this very bad habit of hitting a shot and letting the racquet head drop to my knees or below so it is something I have to change in order to decrease the preparation time to the next shot. It is especially important in doubles. I got told that although I play some good shots, I can't follow up and build the pressure on the opponent because my racquet is down and cannot be lifted up in time for the next shot.

    The coach who teaches my kids told me he sees me as a guy who varies the pace of the smash, sometimes stick smash, vary the angle and placement. I haven't been doing that much because I have been trying to alter some aspects of my smash. I will go back to trying that style again.

    I have noticed my rotation to turning for the round the head is quite slow nowadays. I think I need specific drilling to speed up the action and develop the fast fibres. All my HIIT training doesn't work specifically on this movement.
     
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    Why did you stop your coaching? Too busy these days?
     
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    Don't have any competitions to prepare for.
     
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    Oh really? I didn't realize you only trained with a coach before a competition. Any reason you don't want to train with a coach all the time?
     
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    I don't know if you got one yet, but I'm all for the Xiaomi. I had a ftbit originally but it's 10x the price and I actually prefer the xiaomi app interface. Also, fitbit tends to overestimate the steps while xiaomi underestimates. I'd actually prefer to be pushed to do a little more activity to get to 10,000 steps then less. Battery life is also amazing on xiaomi. Much better than my fitbit.
     
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    Actually spending a fair amount of time doing other things like taekwondo which I have progressed really quickly. I was only doing it to improve my core and lower body fitness plus increase leg speed. Err, well I have been double promoted twice in 9 months. Also do some gymwork to increase my overall body strength and balance out my body. Very weak on my left handside.
     
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    Well, sounds to me like you need to sign up for another competition. :p
     
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    I was training up with some coaching for another competition and disaster. I fell over on my hand and torn a ligament within the palm of the hand that controls the fourth and fifth fingers. Luckily no broken bones nor dislocation. The orthopaedic doctor said I need six weeks off.

    Even after three weeks, my hand still hurts am I just wondering how I will play again with the same dexterity. Might need to change racquets away from zf2.
     
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    Ouch! For sure, you should switch from your 3U ZF2...that is just too heavy and slow for fast doubles duty.
     
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    I did a lot of discussion with the specialist doubles players. They said they practiced a lot of patterns which leads to them being very fast. In fact sometimes, I look very fast just by following an automatic trained sequence and then the shuttle bounces off my racquet even with a 3U ZF2. Definately some inertia with that racquet and I continued using it previously to help train correct technique. But with a hand ligament injury, the shear forces on the hand put some strain. Just a few hours ago, I tried to hit a few feeding shuttles my kid and it hurt more. Bit worried how permanent this will be. It won't affect martial arts but definitely affects my competitive badminton.
     
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    That is some very bad news to hear. Does the doctor give much promise for a full recovery?

    Hopefully keeping it mobile and stretching gently will minimise any permanent damage though.
     
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    Re 3U ZF2, you will not see any competitive high level or professional doubles player use such a heavy and stiff racket like that. I can guarantee you that. Even the Adcocks use the 4U version only.

    When playing doubles against someone else who's similar in level with a faster racket, no amount of pattern training and reaction time will help in defence or drives or fast exchanges... because your opponents will also have the same training in pattern and reaction. Sure the heavy racket will have the advantage if the opponent lifts and you can smash, but we all know that it's not how hard we smash but how *smart* we smash, ie placement, variation etc, because a good opponent with a fast racket will not only be able to defend but also *counter attack* any fast smash if it's not well placed. And eventually fatigue sets in much earlier when playing with a heavy racket.

    Re your ligament injury, which ligament name is it? Hope it's not too serious. Was physio suggested? Or perhaps should try Chinese teet da? But make sure you ask around to find a good one.
     
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    playing doubles mostly and using a zf2 4u and a thruster k8000 3u. My training regime is spread-out over the week and is quite intensive due to that fact that i am trying to enter military forces. my weight now is constant at 68kgs and i am 191cms tall. i am underweight(ectomorph) by atleast 6kgs but i plan to bulk up only on protein-muscle part and endurance factor. i play thrice a week, with only weekends for serious games. most of time is spent at my workplace(software engineering) so cant give in more time nowadays.

    running/jogging-- 5kms a day, on alternate days till week target of 20 kms is achieved.
    benchpress- 50 kgs alternate days, 5 sets of 10reps.
    millitary press-20 kgs alternate days, 10sets 10reps.
    barbell-lunges 15kgs daily 10sets of 5 reps. daily
    dumb-bells- 10kgs each 10 sets of 10reps. daily
    dumb-bells butterfly press 10kgs each 5sets of 10 reps. daily
    planks loaded(15kgs) 2min each set, repeat 3 times. daily
    sideplanks 3sets of 2 mins each, both the sides. daily
    push-ups(loaded 10kgs) 100 daily
    squats-sumo squats 100 daily
    standing calf raise 100 daily.
    jump squats 20 daily.

    besides all that i have to strictly follow a 4000 calories a diet day to maintain a progressive trend of weight. this excercise regimen is very heavy but people at commercial gymnasium with trainers are pulling a lot more excercise and weight behind them. this keeps me fit through-out the week and i am just not exhausted enough for studies and work-pressure. i do minimal of foot-work excercise and drills now.
     
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    I ended up getting the Xiaomi in the end and really like it. I prefer it to underestimate the steps too. You're right, the battery life is awesome! It doesn't need to be charged that often! Glad I went for it now! :)
     
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    Pah, this I have never had a problem with during gameplay.

    Interosseous ligament between the fourth and fifth metacarpals. Had it diagnosed under x-ray with an orthopaedic surgeon.

    Still hurts. Thinking of giving up.
     
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    Don't lose hope just yet - it's not been a month and injuries tend to get much better with time. Though it could be on order of 6 months before you get a good idea of how much your original ability you'll retain.

    In the mean time make sure you do let it rest properly. There would be nothing worse than causing permanent damage that could have been avoided by just waiting. Just focus on the physio exercises to improve blood flow and increase chances of a full recovery!

    Perhaps you can play limited amounts with a brace in the coming weeks. It must be very frustrating to lose the progress you've been making on the fine touches :(

    Like fine tuning a piano to the nearest Hertz, then the ceiling collapses on the strings...
     
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    Really sorry to hear this. Injury is so harsh.

    Give it some time, and good luck. Good thing is you know a good doctor. ;)
     
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    How’s the left hand?
     
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    Interosseous ligament...hopefully should be able to heal by itself. Also best you seek a good Chinese teet da doctor.
     
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