Depends entirely on performance.... If they are good like Gary Kirsten or Terry Walsh or BI Fernandez, they are toasted, awarded, celebrated and treated like The Beatles, adored by peers, revered by young players and worshipped by fans.... If they suck like Greg Chappell, their arses are toasted and they are publically assaulted and derided by all concerned; players, media and fans; even MPs in Prliament during Question Hour.... Also remuneration wise, India's Coach is the highest earning national team coach in cricket; while in hockey India's coach earns more than any other national or club coach or player.... If you are from Aberdeen, Scotland then lets say Fergie is toasted and Moyes is kicked out.. Them being Scots has no bearing on us Lancastrians... If you are from Aberdeen, USA then I won't be able to provide a corollary, since all US specific sports codes escape me.
[MENTION=122085]Fan123[/MENTION] Gopichand's contribution to Indian Badminton was never in question. I am happy with his performance as Singles Coach and what he has done for Singles in India. Big Picture: INDIAN DOUBLES is struggling. Who is accountable for Doubles/Singles Badminton of any Country? Chief Coach Since taking over as Chief Coach of India. What steps has Gopichand taken for Doubles? Why hasn't he publicly acknowledged or demanded a foreign doubles coach? The Government of India is currently funding all junior/senoir badminton players to play in tournaments. The Government of India instituted a new scheme for Olympics called TOP, special funding for players. Gopichand was part of the selection committee which picked 6 Indian singles players.( 2 girls and 4 boys) Note:Only 2 boy singles players can represent India, why fund 4, ignoring doubles players? Why were Jwala/Ashwini ignored from this scheme? They would have benefited from a foreign coach. Doubles needs urgent steps to lift India out of this mess. An article in Indian Express: http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/badminton/rio-olympics-2016-purse-to-podiums-badminton/ "Badminton has been a high-achieving sport on the international circuit hitting the headlines regularly with enviable depth in singles players. While the singles shuttlers have been adequately taken care of by TOPS, the doubles pairings have been ignored in the initial funding list. India’s exits from team events — Thomas & Uber Cups and Sudirman Cup — despite its rich crop of singles players is owing to its stark weakness in doubles — 3 ties — men’s, women’s and mixed doubles as compared to 2 singles ties. The TOPS funding — or lack of it — continues to leave the paired events in the lurch."
An article in Firstpost: http://www.firstpost.com/blogs/double-standards-of-our-badminton-association-10253.html "When Gopi Chand took over as the national coach, he promised to change the situation by forcing talented doubles players to quit playing singles and arranged long national camps for them to practice together. But four years down the line, we still don’t have a formidable second combination in women and mixed doubles. The domestic competition in men’s doubles is of a better standard but they are nowhere near to challenge the international stars. In fact, some of them have already stopped playing doubles and are concentrating on singles, content at playing in the domestic circuit." "Though Gopi Chand’s intentions were good, he forgot to address the basic problem for doubles in India. We do not have quality doubles coaches in the country who can work on the technique of these players. Singles and doubles require completely different techniques starting from the grip which explains why Gopi Chand’s predecessor U Vimal Kumar had forced BAI to employ the services of Hadi Sugiyanto to train the doubles stars. It was during Sugiyanto’s tenure that the men’s doubles combination of Sanave Thomas and Rupesh Kumar and the mixed doubles team of Diju and Jwala began performing on the international stage."
Vimal Kumar as Chief Coach had the foresight to demand and press for a foreign doubles coach, Hadi Sugiyanto. This was considered impossible in 1996 under a difficult BAI. Gopichand can be given the benefit of doubt for his first four years as Chief Coach till 2010. Since 2010 the new BAI was considered a friendly regime compared to past ones. Gopichand has a good rapport with BAI.If he presses and demands a foreign doubles coach, he will be supported by BAI. The Government of India will pay for the coach. The push for a foreign coach is needed from Gopichand, until then the status quo will remain. Doubles will continue to flounder.
New Article on Doubles: Economic Times http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/chip-and-charge/doubles-trouble-what-on-earth-goes-wrong-when-our-shuttlers-pair-up/ "Nine-time national champion Aprana Popat believes the results are a clear sign that a “solid doubles programme” needs to be urgently introduced. “Junior players must be trained as doubles specialists by specialist coaches," “If we really we want to be called a powerhouse, then we need to find the right balance,” says former national champion and coach Vimal Kumar, who was in Dongguan as Saina’s coach. “The expertise that singles players have access to is required. We need to hire one of the top doubles coaches in the world, who in turn supports and motivates the Indian coaches working with the players right now.”
While a committed doubles coach from Denmark or Indonesia will be great, I don't remember the overall results during Vimal's reigns being a quarter as good as Gopi's (or for that matter Prakash's)... Vimal's two reigns were better than Dipu Ghosh's all right, but that was his level as national coach statistically.... Nowhere near PG or even PP..... Vimal handled Anup Shridhar, Chetan Anand, AS Gupta as national coach; all more skilled than Kashyap..... Compare the results.
[MENTION=122085]Fan123[/MENTION] Please read my posts again. I am not questioning his singles coaching or comparing him with anyone else. I am just emphasizing that Vimal hired a doubles specialist and focused on singles. Big Picture: Please focus only on doubles. Do you agree that India needs a specialist doubles foreign coach? I just want Gopichand to focus only on Singles and leave Doubles coaching to a foreign specialist. Can you imagine how much stronger Indian badminton will become. Only Gopichand can press and convince BAI to hire a specialist. It is time India moved from Singles strong to Powerhouse.
I agree with the specialist part, nationality is immaterial,and I also propose that if by 2016 things don't change; maybe BAI should totally segregate singles and doubles programs.
Wherever India is now , the credit actually goes to Gopichand . No other person. He has been trying really hard to produce world class players. My humble opinion regarding the unavailability of quality doubles players :- In one interview, i have heard Gopichand saying that the number of players who are willing to play doubles is very less. Even if some people come to play doubles, they leave the set-up due to many reasons (personal) ,keeping in mind the future of their career. And also, In India, we don't have proper system for anything . If the only best pair jwala/aswini is paying from their pocket to play tournaments, we need to think that how it gonna be for any other player/pair to play without any background or sponsor. This is not China where all the necessities needed for a player are taken care of and the player only need to concentrate on badminton. Unless you get a proper system , "n" number of players willing to play doubles, Proper speciallist to coach doubles, Proper finance background , we are not able to go to that level for sure. One example i wanna give about the financial situation with indian badminton players. I have read one article about our 17 year old senior cum junior singles national champion , Ruthvika Shivani. The article was about her various achievements and titles she won in national championships. But at last, it was mentioned that she was searching for a sponsor who can provide financial assistance for her to improve her physical strength(she is rather weak in terms of international standards). If at all, she could not get financial assistance to maintain her physical condition, how can she pay to go for foreign tours to play more international tournaments. Sindhu's situation was different. She was provided by her parents for many international tournaments even when she was 15 or 16 years old . I apologise if anything wrong in my views or posts.
What happened to Sourabh verma ? His rank gone out of 100 now. Stopped playing badminton?. He is one of the players who has beaten Peter gade. That was peter's last match before his retirement. Just as i mentioned , here you go. He registered his name in Srilanka International Challenge 2015 http://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=027031C4-3413-4B37-BF88-9AAD518057EF&draw=1
Some of the promising junior indian players are playing in srilanka international Challenge 2015. Some notable junior players who are taking part in that tournament are Laa Talar , Siril varma and Harsheel Dani. In WS, Rituparna Das, Ruthvika Shivani, Rasika Raje are some of junior players taking part in this tournament. One of the Future promising MD pair M.R.Arjun/Chirag Shetty is playing .
Couldn't agree more.... I believe prize money parity in national level singles and doubles tournaments will help, also BAI should send doubles teams regularly to play at the IS and IC levels, before unleashing them directly at the GP or SS levels.
So the Indian run at Australia SS has come to an end. Frustating. Sindhu gave a neck and neck fight to Wang Yihan, but in the end could not beat her. I have sympathy for her. Guru and Kashyap also fought close matches. Guru was against Chen Long, but sad that Kashyap could not better WZM. Srikanth's second straight loss to THW is disappointing. Hope he comes back stronger at INA SSP. Saina's loss was strange. Hope she gets her revenge at INA SSP against WSX. Saina's last 4 losses were similar - she won the first game then lost the next 2. Here she lost in straight games. Another reason why it was strange. Saina seemed to have lost focus towards the end of both games.
Also, why was Vimal Kumar not there? I hope he is at Indonesia. Saina's loss today was disappointing. Hopefully, she will take her revenge against WSX at INA SSP. Saina was definitey not at her best today. I hope she is saving it for the INA SSP. Which is a bigger tournament both in terms of prize money and ranking points. The bad thing about INA SSP draw is that Saina and Sindhu are in the same side of the draw.
And one previous to that was: So the Indian run at Australia SS has come to an end. Frustating. Sindhu gave a neck and neck fight to Wang Yihan, but in the end could not beat her. I have sympathy for her. Guru and Kashyap also fought close matches. Guru was against Chen Long, but sad that Kashyap could not better WZM. Srikanth's second straight loss to THW is disappointing. Hope he comes back stronger at INA SSP. Saina's loss was strange. Hope she gets her revenge at INA SSP against WSX. Saina's last 4 losses were similar - she won the first game then lost the next 2. Here she lost in straight games. Another reason why it was strange. Saina seemed to have lost focus towards the end of both games.
Another young Indian pair to look out for in Sri Lanka is Shlok Ramchandran & Sanyam Shukla. They were the No. 1 pair in India till a few weeks ago but fallen to 3rd now because shlok had to miss the all india ranking tournament at bareilly a month back due to a torn tricep. In the Syed Modi GP, the pair almost beat the World No. 15 Singaporean pair of Charyut & Danny Bawa. They were leading 18-15 in the decider.
I dont understand why no results are updated of the Sri Lankan IC on tournamentsoftware.com? Isnt it made mandatory by BWF?
