Racket hits the net, but opponent went on to return the shuttle but hit out

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  1. fusoh

    fusoh Regular Member

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    Sorry if this is was being mentioned before, but as topic suggested,

    I'd like to know if it's considered a foul for the 1st player since he/she hit the net with the racket, or does the point go to him/her as the opponent went to return the shuttle but hit it out instead.

    Thanks.
     
  2. visor

    visor Regular Member

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    The first fault takes precedence, so his opponent gets the point.
     
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    [MENTION=57143]visor[/MENTION] is correct, but here's the verbose version:

    §13.4.1 It shall be a ‘fault’ if, in play, a player touches the net or its supports with racket ...
    §15.3 A shuttle is not in play when a ‘fault’ or a ‘let’ has occurred.

    And, if it's unclear what a fault is:

    §7.3 A side shall win a rally, if the opposing side commits a ‘fault’...

    So it really doesn't matter what happens after the racket hits the net.
     
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    That's correct.

    If you touch the net, whether it is with you racquet or body before the shuttle hits the ground, then you are at fault.
     
  5. fusoh

    fusoh Regular Member

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    aha! this clear things up. thanks guys for your advices!
     
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    unless the shuttle is already stuck in the net! ;)
     
  7. craigandy

    craigandy Regular Member

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    Not exactly. if you hit it into the net on your side and the shuttle has started to fall and I hit the net with my racket it is not a fault even before the shuttle has landed.
     
  8. visor

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    Theoretically yes, if you have an umpire present.

    Try that with your social games and see what kind of response you get from your opponents. ;) :p
     
  9. Fidget

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    You guys have wandered so far into the hypothetical that even Rod Serling can't see you anymore. :rolleyes:
     
  10. craigandy

    craigandy Regular Member

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    I have given it when opponent has struck the net a couple times before, playing in social games, the opponents usually are quite surprised as they don't know the rule, just kinda look at me like I'm crazy, but they still take my offer lol. Your right though, most players are ill informed or cheats:D looks like it would not even be on fidgets radar for instance
     
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    Lol... look at you like you're crazy but still take your point. :D
     
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    Would you believe that I have a 10 page printout of the BWF laws of badminton in my bag ready to go, just in case I need to whip it out to show any fine points to my opponents.

    Don't know why but that's when I get this look from them like I'm crazy or something. [​IMG]
     
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  13. Fidget

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    Maybe they look at you like you're crazy only because you are hauling around a ream of paper, like an old man, instead of having the laws as a PDF on your phone.


    -"Paper?!? Uncle is sooo ancient!!"
     
  14. visor

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    Lol... I also have the pdf on my S5 and the bookmark is set and ready to go at a moment's notice. :p
     
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    Actually, I've made the experience that even young people tend to trust more in printed rules. Therefore, I always pack the official rule book (the short version, which is missing the instructions for umpires and all of the "off-court" parts).

    I'm still surprised that most players have never seen the actual rules. Since I have multiple copies, I can also lend a rulebook to an interested player.

    The German rules (which differ from the BWF ones, for example to accomodate ceilings <9m) are also copyrighted, so the only PDF version you get is from 2006 and not the actual current rules. The differences between the 2006, 2010 and 2012 editions are minor, but I've actually been called out by a player who would not accept the "outdated" rules.
     
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    Yep, never fails to surprise just how open minded people can be to the rules they don't know, when your giving them a point compared to how cluelessly stubborn they are when you try to take a point. Strange that games like golf if you don't know the rules you will get DQ and thrown of the course within 5 holes but badminton it's cool.
     
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    Lol.... this just happened yesterday... did a drop shot to the net, opponent hesitated till last minute before hitting a backhand return, and racket touches the net (shuttle was returned out).
     
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    It is the most common thing for badminton playing that the Racket hits the net, but opponent went on to return the shuttle but hit out. But you want to know about the condition when it becomes foul. Sorry to say that i am unable to describe this topic right now as i am a new member in this Forum.
     
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    As long as the shuttle is not in play; you can touch the net. So if the rally is over (bird hits the ground), a fault or let has occurred, you can touch the net. If the bird is still flying out, even if by 20 miles, but has yet to hit the ground, you must refrain from touching the net.
     
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    I have a question about this. What if your opponent hits the shuttle and it hits the tape and starts fall down on his side of the net, but just as that it's falling you hit under the net/tape with your racket and it bounces the shuttle back and over onto your side. Would it be your point b/c the shuttle was falling on your opponent's side already or opponent's point because you hit the net resulting in a fault?
     

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