2014 WC Qualifications

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  1. craigandy

    craigandy Regular Member

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    ^^ That has no logic with regards to the rules. You would have to completely rewrite all the rules to allow for this and the result would be few countries qualifying for WC. If they want somebody in all the way up in rank 80 they can and should only be able to send 2.
     
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    The rules are there to help us, not the other way around! Logic says that if LD goes, he has to take the place of one of his teammates.
     
  3. craigandy

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    You know that is not an option though right?
     
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    OFFICIAL: There are no Wild Card in WC 2014
     
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    Now the question is whether DPY+WZM will be dropped for LD.
     
  6. craigandy

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    Journeyman DPY and painfully under performing WZM or the king LD tough one...
     
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    What an interesting choice!
     
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    the question is who will give China a better chance to keep the title?
    LD or DPY+WZM combined?
     
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    If CBA drops DPY and WZM, for Lin Dan, can they also include the next highest ranked player? (huang yuxiang)
     
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    short answer - no
     
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    I know this must have been debated a hundred times before and people would come up with a thousand reasons. However, after reading the lists, the first thought remains what a waste of opportunities not given to some of the finest players in the world to demonstrate themselves in one of the biggest events of the sport simply because of their passport!
     
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    well, you wait until the 2016 OLY.
    most likely many of the top 3/4 players are not eligible, that's half of the top 4 players!
     
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    Ridiculous as are all sorts of dirty politics.
     
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    Yeah I agree, BWF should seriously consider the integrity of their events. Yes, we want more nations participating, but at what cost?

    When you remove so many players and substitute with inferior players, i feel it upsets the quality of the tournament. In fact, winning rio 2016 would be easier than winning All England, where ALL the top players are competing.
     
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    ^^ but Rio and the Olympics is just about getting medals for your country, not an individual thing at all, doesn't matter what player gets them. WC on the other hand is debatable on if they have the balance right as it is a purely individual event.
     
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    None but Lin Dan as he is best chance for CHN to defend MS supremacy in WC.
     
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    I'm not so sure the WC qualifying rules are internally consistent. Rule 3.2.5 states:

    After considering all the players as stated in 3.2.3 and 3.2.4 above, if there are still any vacancies in draw, then the players / pairs ranked nine and lower in the entire BWF ranking list for each event will be

    considered in turn and are eligible to enter unless a total of four players / pairs from any one Member Association would thereby be exceeded in that event. Players ranked lower than 150 are eligible to enter under this regulation.


    Since 3.2.3 is the rule with the quotas, it implies that once they have looked at all the spots within the quotas, they will start trying to fill the 64-person field with people ranked 9th and below regardless of the quotas, just as long as they don't exceed 4 per MA. Now, to begin with, this seems pointless, since there are more than 64 member associations, each with a quota of one and there is no indication in rule 3.2.3 that the top ranked player from Seychelles should not be chosen if he is ranked outside the top 150. However, it does suggest that at some point, the selection process will abandon the quotas and just start awarding spots as long as they don't go above four. Indeed, we know that this has happened in the past when reserve spots have been awarded to third players who were ranked outside the top 24. Also, the latest BWF article says that Tian Houwei is next in line if there is a declined spot from Phase II.

    Rule 3.2.5 isn't linked to the phases. The phases are described in 3.2.18. But whatever, it does sound like the quotas are going to be abandoned at some unknown stage. But for the Phase II, they still seem to be intact for some but not others. Consider the MD list for Phase II. France declined two spots but instead of offering a spot to wr#65 Kersaudy/MITTELHEISSER of France, they reach down and offer spots to the top Welsh pair, the 2nd Canadians and the top Irish pair. I mean, there is nothing in the rules about a nation abdicating its right to quota spots just because they reject the first two offers.

    In mixed doubles, France again declined two, but they were offered one spot to their 3rd pair, but none to their 4th pair, who were also passed over in favour of pairs from Austria and Australia. What's more, they offered a spot to the 4th-ranked Korean pair, to be a 3rd Korean entry (since one declined), even though they are ranked outside the top 24! If they are abandoning quotas, why not offer a spot to the 4th Chinese or Indonesian pair before to a 3rd Korean or to a 3rd Danish pair before offering to a first Austrian?

    This all leads me to believe that China could not have chosen Chen Long and Lin Dan but that, if China had declined the Du, and Wang invitations, long before Lin Dan got offered a spot, they would have ignored unfilled quota spots and started offering spots to the 2nd Brazilian or abandoned quotas and offered to the fourth Japanese.
     
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