Hi..from what I see here..the dry weight n head weight of 3u nr z spd are higher than 4u zf..does that mean 3u nr z spd swing slower and has less maneuverability than 4u zf?
^ Yep, that's why in that Z Speed thread I mentioned that the 3U Z Speed swings like it's in between 3U and 4U VZTF.
This thread just shows that racket manufacturers should clearly state swingweight specs for their rackets as it would save a whole lot of confusion. Swingweight is the most important factor in determining how a racket plays, total weight and balance are two variables which are down to personal preference. Tennis for example, two players have customised their swingweight using lead tape to be identical at 350 kg/cm2. Their balance points differ based on their style of play, an aggressive baseliner prefers a balance which is 5pts Headlight, whereas the serve and volley-er prefers 8-10pts Headlight. Yes I know tennis isn't badminton but there is still merit to the example. It would be so much easier for someone to choose a racket, once they have narrowed down a selection of rackets with a swingweight which they are comfortable with, they can select based off of their subjective opinion on what feels better to them balance wise. On that note, I changed the balance of my VTZF from 321mm to 315mm using 3g of lead tape wrapped around the buttcap. Whilst the swingweight (91 kg/cm2) remains unchanged, it FEELS nicer to use with a slightly lower balance. The trade-off obviously was now my racket is 3g heavier but for me it is much easier to use now.
[MENTION=34474]Tedski[/MENTION] 4u JJS: dry 37.1/84.7 This is the same one that I measured a few months ago. Only this one left, no other 3u or 4u as Topline sold off around 6 in that time. More stock arriving this wk. BS LHI: so flexy and HH that I didn't bother measuring.
Thanks buddy, so is that 4U JJS too head light for your taste?? IIRC, the last time I tried the JJS, I felt it swings heavy; do you think that's the case?
Yeah, that's too head light for me. This 4u sample is unusually head light... eg my 4u MX70 is 38.0/83.7. Usually I prefer around 37.5-37.8g for my play style. The JJS you tried before was 3u so probably 38.0g or more head wt, that's why it was too difficult. Btw, Topline now has Adidas Duoforce, which looks like it has same specs as and plays like Ti10. Even kwun thinks so...
Possibly, when I swung Eddie's 3u JJS yesterday, it was surprisingly light and easy to swing. Will check Topline tmrw when more stock arrives.
Haha... just ask him if you need to demo any racket! Btw did you know, he also has a Victor C7030 ECP stringing machine at home!
Hello all, this thread is very facinating as it puts the feeling of a racquet into actual emperical data. I am not good in physics therefore perhaps someone can take a look at the excel sheet i have compiled based on the data presented on this thread and come up with a better and more accurate values. Would also like to request that everyone from in the forum to contribute to input data of the racquets which are still not in the list.
i have tried this method last night to weight all my rackets. i am a bit wonder whether it's correct. all my 3 rackets weighted almost the same MX JJS 48g BS 12 43g NS9900 48g
Great work here so far. I like to add the the specs of an voltric zf2 so far: Racketname //// Bare wt //// Bare head wt voltric zf2 4U //// 84.59 //// 38.30 I would like if someone can give me the specs of an 3U zf2. I like this Thread here very much. It is the best way to compare rackets even their is a difference of flexibility, air resistance and MOI, because if we compare we have to compare under the same condition. I like to add that a lot of people here believe that adding grips making their rackets less head heavy (more head light). Thats for me not correct. Of course the balance Point changes, but the mass you swing will be same (or insignificant higher). Cause for playing the mass of racket that is above the grip it much more important for the swing. For most swing the grip doesnt change change his position so in influence nothing. Its about the same if you put a wedding ring on your finger, it will not influence much.
