Jumping holes Racquet

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  1. bluejeff

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    All right, I know the topic sounds weird, but I just don't know what to call it.
    This kind of racquet have holes that are "jumping up and down" at 12, 3, 6, and 9 clock points, and I am wondering if anyone have any experience with it?

    I saw these pics from surfing on the web, and so far, the manufacturer claimed that it would give more power:rolleyes: (but without any further explainations.)
    It looks more like the tech used in Tennis, but this is surely a badminton racquet. :)

    Please express your thoughts on this kind of racquet with weird-holes :)
     

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    I've seen and tried these kind of badminton rackets. I can't remember the name but some outlets in malaysia does sell this weird holed racket.

    Basically the frame of the racket is stiff. Probably to support the string tension if its high. Anyway when using the racket , you feel that it does gives some extra power due to the trampoline effect of the what its designed.. and also if you tensioned it at 24lbs , it will end up 25lbs after stringing. However this kind of design does gives alot of stress to the strings. Do advice that thin strings does snap faster than the usual racket hole design.
     
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    It's an interesting innovation but if it had any serious merit I think we'd have seen at least one Yonex racket using the technology by now.
     
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    Why? Can't other manufacturers innovate too?

    I think Dominic (a Malaysian brand) has a model and they called it the wave technology.

    It is something that is borrowed from tennis.
     
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    The brand of racket, SPEED has this type of alternate holes stringing racket.
     
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    This weird-holed racket has been out in Taiwan for a couple of years already.....it's not something new :)
     
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    strung a black knight racket with those wavy grommet pattern 4 years ago.
    The owner still hasn't pick up the racket from me yet.
    my advice? Avoid them.
     
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    Actually, my Carbonex 9 (old model) have the jumping holes at the T-joint too. But its just "2" jumping holes.
     
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    how does the outside of the frame look like? normal racket has a narrow channel that hides the grommet, is the channel in these racket a zigzag pattern?

    got any pics?
     
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    i'm at work now, hehe
     
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    The outside of the frame looks normal. Anyway my fren have this racket. I will try to get some pics of it when i'm back in Msia.
     
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    I saw this kind of frame design 6 years ago in Taiwan. But this design is not popular in Taiwan. Recently, my friend show me this kind of rackets, one is from winex and the other is from RSL. They are all bought a couple years ago. I like this kind of design and try to get the rackets from the web site you visit. But they all sold out, I am waiting for the next batch of production. The attached file is the racket I bought recently. This kind of design seems to give you more power and solid feeling.... :D
     

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    This kind of holes called "Vortex" which is developed by Prince in 1993. It seem to be failed because Prince no longer use it after 1995 and only applied on 3-4 rackets.

    I am not a good tennis player, so I cannot add comment on it. But as per a stringer, this holes pattern consumes me more time to string a racket.
     
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    the offset pattern of this black knight is located at 3,9,6 and 12 oclock area.
     

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    It looked so whacky with strings on....... :eek: :eek:
    (It Looks really like a tennis racket.)
     
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    i tihnk the technology is call "zig zag", and Speed is Malaysia used to make them, but they've kinda stopped last time i checked (about a year ago). Domino Sports still make them, and it's around $130 for 2 =) i personally have 3 of them, and they basically feel very very very stiff... -_- most of them are head heavy (well, the two that i've got and the collection that my friend has anyway)...

    my 2 cents worth...
     
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    This design does add a little extra power. nice pics.. the one i saw in yellow in color.. still cant remember whats the brand name.
     
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    I think such design should gives out more power, as it gives a bit more space for string to "bounce" (same theory as Gosen WPP 5300). However, with string being further apart, I wonder if the stroke stability will significantly decreased. Also, with "add on" power, maybe string life will decrease as well??? :confused:
     
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    I was thinking the racket's life would be short because now, grommets are getting 2x impacts from hits of shuttles as half of them are up and half of them are down. (If you are not hitting into center) :rolleyes:
     
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    And 2 years later.. along came nano-tubes :) to get some frame strength :D
    /twobeer
     

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