Koo Kien Kiet/Tan Boon Heong/Rexy Combination

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  1. visor

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    Out of those, KKK is probably the most "creative", but he's not as consistent as Cai.
     
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    Back to the hot question, Who is banging Rexy??
    come on, i missed the action yesterday, can discuss again?
    who bang Rexy lar???
     
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    they say no venture, no gain

    and exactly that was what kkk has been trying to do in the court

    and he was supposed to be good but on this day cai/fu were better

    so just give kkk a break and let him improve on that
     
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    Indian... India... Commonwealth game will be the one and only in the history...
     
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    i think if we seperate the questions, then the problem wont arise.....

    where's Rexy...? just to ask why Rexy not around to guide KKK/TBH...I think that is the basis of the question..

    seperate questions......

    Where is the stamina they suppose to have for them to last the rubber...?

    Where is the varieties of serves a world class player shd have...?

    Where is the ability to pound hard smashes when your opponent serve high ...?

    Where is the agility a double player shd have in our players...?

    When KKK going to lose some more weight....?



    the rest of questions are for the players and Rexy involvement is not much since the players are in the court...
    i take above questions as constructive questions that our fellow members hope KKK/TBH can improve on so that
    they can achieve good results....dont get agitated so easily
    end of the day, everyone want is winner.....
     
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    I agree with you. when KKK tricks work, is a nice game to watch
    sometimes backfire...cant blame him also...he want to win as well....
     
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    LYD is not playing that well in the last few appearances. He's just not making as big an impact even at the front court.
    CY is the fastest frontman despite his age which gives him the bite. He just seems to be everywhere even when off balance. He's also the least effective in the rear court among the 4.
    HS is usually laid back but gets his job done by being at the right place at the right time. Fantastic anticipation and the only one right now that can push CY away from the net.
    KKK has matured a lot. If you compare his play to what he does just 1 year ago when his choice of shots just baffles me. Like what visor said, KKK's game style/risk appetite does not allow him to be as consistent as CY. KKK is the most versatile frontcourt specialist -- he packs quite a punch in the rearcourt as well.

    I think KKK is not as tight as he can be yesterday. He did give a hint of "fooling around" but not excessively. CY, OTOH, was superb and got all his angles covered. That, plus the improvement to FHF makes the CHN pair a very hard nut to crack. The main problem was KKK/TBH not being able to finish the match in 2 sets and allowing FHF/CY to get themselves into the game. The confidence difference at the 2nd half of the 3rd set is apparent.
     
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    And also the former great Tony Gunawan.heehee.
     
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    cai yun is most creative and skilful, and with his experience adds consistency.
    dats why they are dominating de men's doubles circuit now. next comes kkk, tricky shots but quality is inconsistent making it low quality.
     
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    Cai Yun is the most consistent, yes. As you very well put it, his experience helps a lot. His positioning is the one thing I admire the most, as well as his never say die attitude when staring defeat in the 2nd game yesterday.

    Frontcourt skills belong to Hendra Setiawan. This had always been an Indonesian specialty since before and after Park Joo Bong era. Even the Ahsan/Bona Septano pair are starting to do good in this discipline.

    Creativity is a toss between Koo Kien Kiat and Lee Yong Dae. Yesterday Koo lost his touch when Cai Yun drove the Malaysians back and keep himself within striking distance of the net. Took too many risks that didn't work.

    Lee Yong Dae depends on lighning reflexes to create and since his injury, has not been able to do the same so far.

    One of the reasons why Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng are dominating now is that they have learnt to master the short blocks/drives, change of pace and adapt to the opponents' change of rhythm. Previously, they could only play at one speed (fast) and direction (smash downwards).
     
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    Excellent comments yet again by abedeng! He nails down the strength and weakness of each of the front-court man of the top 3 MD pairs.

    Cai/Fu's improvements meant that other pairs need to work harder to put more variation in their plays and match the Chinese too!
     
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    I also see that FHF can also do quite a bit of netplay... not great but okay
     
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    talk about front-court play, imho, I think INA's Setiawan is still the best... (apart from ParkJB)...
     
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    If you go back as far as ParkJB... TonyG at his prime has the speed of CY, the anticipation of HS, as deadly in his shots as the two, and better placement than KKK. Totally lethal at the net.

    Haha.. but this thread is about KKK/TBH + Rexy so lets get back to topic :).
     
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    kkk is still younger than cy, so a few good year to play provided that lyd is not recovered.

    however, if kkk wish to win more tournaments, he really have to keep fit. Again, the best for now is to kill off the game in 2 games. It'll take a while for him to get slimmer/sexy. Have to slot hard to kill them off in 2 sets tho. ;)

    Anyway, so far they have been consistent in reaching finals. Good pocket money.;)
     
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    ^^^
    Actually not only Koo need to be fit Nd lose a few kilos, but Tan also needs to be more fit than he is currently, as he can only hit a few smashes before tiring out and resorting to drops. Compare this th Fu who's still hitting bombs in game 3.
     
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    Yes, exactly............right on the spot.

    Lots more hard work need to be done, before they can beat the top three pairs regulary !
     
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    watch what you said, many will not like it
    cant you give KKK/TBH a break?
    2 consecutive finals is a big deal....
     
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    Yes, but what about Cai and Fu, WC, China masters, and JO?
    3 finals and titles in a row, back to back.

    Mind you, I'm aware they don't play as many tournaments as Koo and Tan, but still within a span of 2-3 months, they've won 3 titles...
     
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    ..for consolation, at the very least they lost to arguably the hottest and currently best MD pair at the moment, both times in 3 very hard fought games; not losing to some lower ranked pairs (like in this yr's Swiss Open SS)..:cool:
     
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