FANBAD (formerly Bracket Game) - German Open 2010

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  1. hcyong

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    The Bracket Game - now reverting back to its original name FANBAD - is back.

    The changes and additions to the original rules are in red.

    FANBAD - (Re)Introduction

    Sample Gameplay and Key Points
    • Consider the following MS pick for R32:
      MS R32 - Sasaki
    • If Sasaki wins (see definition of "win" later) his R32 match, you progress to R16.
    • Consider next the following pick for R16 (Sasaki cannot be picked again for the MS event throughout the tournament):
      MS R16 - Park SH
    • If Park loses his R16 match, you proceed no further and collect points for reaching R16.
    • The further you progress, the more points you collect (based on the BWF ranking points).
    • For each event, you can only use a player only once throughout the whole tournament. (If you used a player in MS, you can still use the same player in other events i.e. MD and XD.)
    • This game is played for all five events.

    Rounds
    • The game is only for the main draw. Qualifying rounds are not played.
    • For the sake of consistency, the following terms will be used to signify the rounds.
      F - Final
      SF
      QF
      R16
      R32
      R64 - Round of 64
      etc.
    • This is to avoid confusion in some tournaments where there could be more rounds in MS than other events.
    • For each event, the opening round is the first round of the main draw IF the number of valid matches (see definition of "valid match" later) makes up at least 25% of the possible matches in the round. If the number of valid matches is less than 25%, then the second round will be the opening round.
    • For example, in a R64 first round, there are 32 possible matches. If 8 or more matches are valid, then this is the opening round for the game. If not, the R32 (the next round) will be the opening round and all the R64 picks will be rendered non-existent.
    • This rule is to prevent having to pick a player from only a few matches due to the fact that all the other matches in that round are byes or walkovers.

    Valid match
    • A valid match is a match in which at least one point has been played. A bye or walkover is not considered a valid match.

    Win
    • For a player/pair to win, he/she/they must be triumphant in a valid match. Receiving a bye or walkover is not considered a win.
    • Triumph by retirement is considered a win, even if the player/pair is/are losing before the opponent(s) retire(s).
    (Henceforth, for the sake of brevity, the terms "player" and "he" will be used instead of the more cumbersome "player/pair" and "he/she/they".)

    Substitutes
    • For every round, substitutes can be chosen as standby in case the main pick's match becomes invalid.
    • There is no limit to the number of substitutes, although common sense is encouraged.
    • Unused players in the lineup can still be used in later rounds.
    • One way to use a substitute is when you are expecting a qualifier to advance to the main draw. If you think he is going to win the opening round of the main draw, you can pick him as your main pick. But just in case he fails to make the main draw at all, the next player in line will step in.
    • Another is when you will have no access to the forum for subsequent rounds. Since you are not certain who will go through to subsequent rounds, use as many substitutes as you can.
    • Basically, your pick for the round will be the first player in your lineup who is involved in a valid match for that round. So, the order of your picks is important.
    • A player who has been used before can be in your lineup, but he will always be passed over.
    • If no players in your lineup can be used, then you lose in that round.

    Format
    • For every round, make your picks before the deadline in the following format.
      [Round]
      [Event] - [Pick1], [Pick2] ...
    • e.g. in the R32, with Sasaki as the main pick and Park SH as substitute:
      R32
      MS - Sasaki, Park SH
      WS - Wong MC, Hwang HY
      MD - Koo/Tan, Boe/Mogensen
      WS - Chin/Wong, Du/Yu, Ma/Wang
      XD - ..., ...
    • Note again that you can have as many substitutes as you want (within bounds of reason).
    • Also note that the order of your lineup matters.
    • There is no restriction for the names used (you can use full names if you wish), but make sure it is clear enough to identify the pick. In some cases, you may have to be very clear, like stating "Taufik (not Akhbar)", if Taufik Hidayat Akhbar also happens to be in the same round.
    • No emails and PM will be accepted. It will all be out in the open.
    • You can keep changing your lineups. The last lineups before the deadline will be valid ones.

    Deadline
    • The deadline for a round pick is the starting time for the first match of the day.
    • For example, if the first match of the day starts at 9 am, then any pick for that day's round after 9 am (for all events) will be deemed too late.
    • The exception is the case where two rounds of the same event are to be played within the day. For this case, the later round's deadline for picks will be the starting time the first match of that round.
    • In cases where there is ambiguity on the deadline, the game administrator will give a notification in advance.
    • For the Super Series, it is clear cut since only one round is played every day, so the deadline will be the starting time for the first match of the day as usually published in advance in tournamentsoftware.
    • You do not have to make any picks for the Finals. This is because you can have at most one pick remaining once you reach the Final (the other finalist has been picked during the SF). The game will automatically assume the pick for you. If none of the finalists can be picked (because both finalists have been picked before), then you automatically end up in the runner-up (RU) position.

    Demotion Rule
    • If you fail to post a valid entry for a round, fret not. You can continue to post for subsequent rounds. However, for each round that you fail to post a valid entry, you get demoted one position from your final result achieved.
    • e.g. If you win an event, you get the runner-up spot instead if you get demoted once; a second demotion will take you down to SF achivement.
    • e.g. If you only take part in the Final, then if you win, you will only achieve R16; if you lose, you will only achieve R32.

    Ranking Points
    • The points awarded is dependant on the round achieved and is based on the BWF Ranking Points, e.g. for SS tournaments, the BWF Ranking Points for SS is used.
    • Points are awarded seperately for all 5 events.
    • For each event, a ranking is generated similar to the BWF Ranking, i.e. accumulating points from the 10 best tournaments (for that specific event only) for the past 52 weeks etc.
    • The points from each individual event ranking are accumulated to make the FANBAD ranking.


    Final Note
    • This game is mostly self-governed. Make all the picks you want for every round. The game administrator can collect the results at the end of the tournament.
    • The game administrator is well aware that the rules may yet be foolproof. In cases of disputes not covered by these set of rules, the game administrator reserves the final judgement with consideration to the spirit of the game.
     
  2. hcyong

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    MS pick starts from R64. Other events R32.
     
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    The opening starts on 3rd March (Wednesday) 10am German time (which is GMT +1), so if you're in KL, Singapore, Beijing, that's 7 hours ahead, i.e. 5 pm.

    So, please post before then.
     
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    R64
    MS
    Petr Koukal (Alt:Gurusaidat)

    R32
    MS
    Kashyap P
    Alt: Tan Chung Sang (1), Brice Leverdez (2)

    WS Chan Tz Ka
    Alt: Lydia Cheah

    MD Hendri/Hendra
    Alt: Hoon Thien How/Ong Soon Hok

    WD Woon Khe Wei/Vivian Hoo
    Alt: Lotte/Paulien

    XD Blair/Bankir
    Alt: Chan Peng Song/Goh Liu Ying
     
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    ms round 64
    tan chun seang,chan kwong beng

    ws round 32
    chan tsz ka,megumi taruno

    md round 32
    mak/tan,hendri/hendra

    wd round 32
    vivian hoo/woon khe wei,ng hui ern/ng hui lin

    xd round 32
    chai biao/zhao yun lei, chan peng soon/goh liu ying
     
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    Welcome aboard limsy. I will wait till the qualification is over before I post.
     
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    I don't get it. You can pick two?
     
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    looks a bit more copmplicated!*hmm*
     
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    R64
    MS - Eric Pang, Vitaly Konov

    R32
    WS - Fransiska Ratnasari, Tatjana Bibik
    MD - Durkin/Nikolaenko, Saputra/Wijaya
    WD - Mun Hoo/Woon Khe Wei, Eto/Wakita
    XD - Blair/Bankier, George/Ward
     
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    Subsequent picks are substitutes (in order), in case your players are not playing due to last-minute withdrawals etc.
     
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    Game admin's message

    Please make your opening round picks by 9 am German time (GMT +1).
    That's 4 pm in the MAS, Beijing time zone.
     
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    The gist of it is pretty simple:
    1. for every round, choose a player/pair who will win
    2. if that player/pair loses, your progress ends there
    3. otherwise, you get to keep picking in subsequent rounds
    4. but you cannot pick the players/pairs you have picked in previous rounds
     
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    R64
    MS – Eric Pang, Wong Wing Ki

    R32
    WS – Meulendijks, Sorensen
    MD – Durkin/Nikolaenko, Wiramata/Wong WH
    WD – Hoo Mun/ Woon KW, Chang HY/Wong PR
    XD – Blair/Bankier, Wiramata/Tse YS
     
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    MS- Takuma Ueda, Wong Wing Ki

    R32
    WS-Tatjana Bibik, Judith Meulendijks
    MD-Kristoff/Johannes, Mak Hee Chun/Tan Wei Kiong
    WD-Lenna Frier/Marie Ropke, Hoo Mun/Woon KW
    XD-Biao Chai/Zhao Yunlie. Blair/Bankier
     
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    MS- Petr Koukal, Wong Wing Ki

    R32
    WS-Tatjana Bibik,
    MD- Mikkel Elbjorn/Christian J Skovgaard
    WD-Rei Eto/ Yu Wakita
    XD- Blair/Bankier
     
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    MS: H Kasbauer, Henri H
    R32
    XD: Claes/Descamps, Blair/Bankier
    MD: Durkin/Nikolenko Fuchs/Ingo K
    WD: Rie Eto/Yu Wakita Woon KW/Mun Ho
    WS: Anna Rice, Nana
     
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    Sorry too late i think, but HCyong said R1 start at 5 pm Mas time...????
     
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    I pick the late match for MS R64 that not yet started,....can i ?

    R64 MS

    Vitaliy Konov
     
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    WS Anna Rice
    MD Vitalij Durkin/Alexandr Nikolaenko
    WD Rie Eto/Yu Wakita
    XD Chan Peng Soon/Goh Liu Ying
     
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    OK, I will let it go this time as I did originally mention that it would start at 5 pm. (Two days ago, tournamentsoftware showed the starting time to be 10am.)
     

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