Taufik's thoughts after his match against LD

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  1. Amin Khalili

    Amin Khalili Regular Member

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    We can see many change of Taufik right now(inside,not talking about his game) ... And so as Lin Dan, but just Lin Dan work harder ....
     
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    Getting there..

    - I'm not concluding TH's ranking pts are "cheap" or "meaningless". He deserved whatever ranking pts he has. My point is, if he had played against any of CHN's top 3 MS players or even LCW, in each of the SS tourney he played before the Semifinals Rd, he most likely would not get that 35k. And what am i basing it on? Yes, his recent H2H records against them. I'm sure you would agree with that, right?
    - Yes, you could say the same argument would apply to every player. But we are discussing abt TH's ranking pts, aren't we?
    - I'm not making it a big deal. Are you? I'm just pointing out another aspect of how TH was able to get his 35k, that who knows, some people might have not realized/taken into acct.
     
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    So you are the one holding high standard for TH. :D

     
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    ^^You've finally seen the light..^^

    ..isn't this what the discussion is all about??..:confused::eek::cool:
    If someone else bragged and proudly announced he's won the OG and WC, then shouldn't that person hold a high standard for TH? Segway-ing off that notion, if i don't hold a high standard for TH, what kind of standard do you expect me to hold? A local "Kacang Puteh Brand" championship standard?:confused:
     
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    ctjcad - this is a segway :
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    segue is the word you're looking for :p
     
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    You guys have enlightened me and I hear 'HongKong HongKong' is calling.....
     
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    we can chalk this 09 french open MSF as another classic, just like in 09 OG how LD rips apart lcw, this match showed how LD rips apart TH, flinging him around like a toy.

    for TH to say those things about LD in his blog, and TH did done his best in this FO, TH knew he has no hope in hell of being #1 or win big titles because LD standing his way. I wonder if indra and taufik-ist still gonna make their grandiose prediction for taufik.
     
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    Don't really agree with that. This match wasn't all that exciting when you compare it to the Olympics. Can hardly call it a classic :rolleyes:. There were a few good moments though.
     
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    it is a classic in my book because:

    1. it is rare when TH plays seriously for the whole sets.
    2. it is one highly anticipated match to watch by all the fans
    3. it is played in neutral ground, no alleged game fixing, no excuses for bad refereeing, bad line judging, biased crowd. (actually, the crowded cheered more for TH)
    4. it is rare for LD of not being generous (especially in 1st set)

    i want to know the difference of level between LD and TH with both playing without holding back. I got to see that in set 1. score 21-6. This difference of score represent the spread of skills between LD and TH currently.

    sorry it isn't a classic for u but we all have to be realistic, it would be a blue moon if we all hope to see LD vs TH as finalists in WC, OG AE.
    FO is the best venue we got so far. So take your bitter anti-depressant and suck it up:p
     
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    Imho, Taufik WAS one of the best during his days... but he is just not good enough now and I don't think he's got space/ the ability anymore to reach that so called current 'level'/ standards that we're talking about.

    Thats just the fact.. sad but true...
     
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    don't worry, this standard is fixed using two names only, no need to think about:D:D:D
     
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    lol... thats why I don't wanna mention names... later some ppl get emo and all... :D
     
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    hehe
    in 5 years time
    his hero might also been included to another classic:p
    or maybe his hero will retired on time:cool:
     
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    don't worry bout me or my hero, u should worry about your and where is your next hero will emerge:p
     
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    hehe
    i didnt worry about u
    and i didnt have any hero in badminton;)
    i only have fave in badminton
    like lee yongdae,wanglin,wangyihan,kenichi tago and more;)
     
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    I like Taufik's style much better than Lin Dan's, as far as personality both of them are arrogant ( in their own way), Neither of them is my fav player, but respect their talent.

    I think some Asians players need to learn some diplomacy from Peter Gade and Kenneth Johanssen.


    that is just my opinion ( Please do not flame )
     
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    Infact...you

    don't have to wait for 5 years. His hero has already featured in many of the classic collections as his hero got ripped apart by Chen Jin in IO 09 21-4 in third set. According to his logic, that shows the vast difference between Chen Jin and his hero skill. Oh lets not forget WC 2005, when he lost like a tame cat to TH (15-3?can't remember) in the finals.
     
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    This is what thing that shouldnt be say(I know you are Lin Dan boy and Im Taufik boy, but Im Lin Dan boy too)
    Thing that should be have is self confidence, keep trying and never give up. If you think that you will lose then you will.
     
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    CJ vs LD is not considered a classic duel. All the chinese players know each other moves and tactic, and u never know wat goes on behind the scene. LD has lost to CJ, CH many times before. LD has lost to bcl b4 too.

    as for 05 WC which i know TH fans like to show case endlessly. Well, as i've said before, 04 ot 05 is TH peak years. In 05 WC, LD mentally crashed. TH still has the persona aura from 04 OG win which affect alot of players (even tho i know it was a easy win because he never played a chinese player, and he only has to beat an one-eyed mo shon for the gold). In 05 WC, the inexperienced, the so called one dimensional one mode machine LD didn't see thru TH's fake aura and suffered mental focus. LD was playing like level B+ player, ie. similar to regular club players we see in thousands of clubs. In a way, it was LD that beat himself, not TH. Also, I repeat, u were comparing a peak TH against a ungroomed player. Even with that, LD vs TH H2H was still around 50/50. I believe LD beat TH in 05 sudirman cup.

    a fair comparison would be, can a LD u saw in 09 FO beat a TH u remembered in 05 WC? i say, hell yes.
     
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    So what, chen hong had beat LD 15-2 in 05 AE rubber set.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVqZ-gPtPE
    even when LD was playing this good (one of the finest AE MS final)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuCD-_TY51c
    So, is CH better than TH?

    what had TH done so spectacular in 04 OG, 05 WC, 05 AG that garner him as the best (beside winning the title)? I mean technically, skill wise
     
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