Does adding 4 inches to length of court matter?

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    fan Regular Member

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    Is it important to you, serious and recreational players, that the court length (or size) is conforming to the official court length? This is an indoor court.
     
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    yes offcourse.......
     
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    It is important to me. For one, most of the out of bound shots landed no more than a couple inches outside of the line.
     
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    Some reasons it is not important, I heard
    1.It is not important, because only a couple inches, it won’t make much different.
    2.It we play at a longer court all the time, than it should be Ok. We get use to it. In fact, we have home court advantage when playing players from outside.
     
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    1) Yep, only a couple of inches, doesn't make much of a difference. Hey, you know what else won't make much of a difference? Adding 4 more inches to the court length. And, oh! After that, we should add 5 more inches, since 4 obviously didn't matter.

    2) I like your thinking, I've always said that people should cheat to win. In fact, I always try to sneak laxatives into my opponent's drink bottles before I play them. Besides, it makes perfect sense to get used to the only non-standard sized court in the world and be at a disadvantage when you play anywhere else.
     
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    I am involving in laying out 6 indoor courts recently. The gym manager wants to extend the length a couple inches at each end of the court to match the lines of basketball court. I try to convince him not to do that, but it is not working. I need more reasons to convince him, and time is running out.

    I know he will listen, but how can you tell someone does not know much about badminton that couple inches really matter (or does not matter)?
     
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    If you play at even a semi-professional levels you know the shuttle projectiles that will land outside the lines. Adding a few inches changes your estimation greatly.
     
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    I see, then I apologize for my earlier sarcasm.

    How are the 6 badminton courts arranged on the basketball courts? One thing you can argue is that it would make more sense to move the basketball court lines, since that does not matter.

    Badminton court: 44ft by 20ft
    NBA basketball court: 94ft by 50ft
    FIBA basketball court: 91.86ft by 49.21ft (28m by 15m)
    High school basketball court: 84ft by 50ft

    source
     
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    Couple inches does mess up the judgments of serious players.

    Serious or non serious:
    Would you feel uncomfortable knowing you play at a court that is 4 inches longer?
    Would you avoid playing at such court?
    Would you feel it will mess up your game if you play at such court long enough?
     
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    I believe the width of the basketball court is not standard. The width is just 44’4-5”

    We try to fit 3 badminton courts in one basketball court.
     
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    One of the concerns is that there will be too many lines on the court. It can be a little confusing.

    Which is more confusing to you, non standard size court or two lines, one for basketball and one for badminton, that so close to each other?
     
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    the court needs to conform to international standard size. the height of net too. we cant just simply add here and less there. ask your manager, can we add 40m to the track field? just ask 10% extra.....:rolleyes:

    btw, please ensure its squareness too. ;)
     
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    Obviously if you're playing tournaments it matters. The average recreational player probably won't really be affected much.
    If nobody told them, they probably wouldn't even notice - if they are told though, I'm sure they'll use it as an excuse every single time they lose a game / play a bad shot.
    Personally, I think I'd find it less annoying than low ceilings (which may be a problem for you too - how high will the basketball boards fold up?).
     
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    To be expected I guess, not a lot of school basketball courts are standard. Even if it's tongue-in-cheek, I think you should at least suggest to the gym manager that he move the basketball court lines to fit the badminton court.

    I don't think anyone here will say "no" to any of these three questions. That's because of the base difference between badminton and basketball.

    In badminton, you aim to hit for the ground within the court on your opponent's side. In basketball, you aim for the metal basket in the air. The one rigid standard in basketball is that the basket is always 10 feet off the ground, that's because all the players aim for it. By the same reasoning, badminton players aim for the lines of the court and changing the court dimensions would be detrimental.

    That's why there's so much variation in the basketball court sizes, because it's really not an important part of the game (doesn't affect the score).
     
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    Good point, length in badminton is much more important than width in basketball.
     
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    I also think a lot of casual players probably wouldn't care about that 4 inches. Maybe it is more for the advance players.

    The high is not a problem. There is a track around the basketball court so some room around the court. The basketball boards are designed in a way that it can be folded away from the court. It won get in the way even it cannot be fold that high.
     
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    I'm a serious player and I'd answer yes to all three. Low ceilings/stuff on the ceiling really annoys me too.

    I play both sports in question to a high level and agree with you sort of. I agree that a badminton player would be more affected than a basketball player but some B-ball players (guards mainly) like to dribble drive down the flanks. The lessened width of the court may damage this playing style as they'll have less space to operate within. I didn't explain that well but I hope you know what I mean.
     
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    yeah, did not think in perspective of a point guard. I did think that will make the 3 point line non standard and it properly affects the 3 pointer more.
     
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    Less space? How much less? fan has already said that the courts are non-standard, at about 5'6" narrower than standard. There's a lot of differences between NBA and FIBA court sizes, three-point lines, shape of the key, etc.. There's a lot less adjusting for basketball, since dribbling in a larger or smaller space doesn't score any points.
     
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    True but indirectly, it could lead to points being scored. Anyway, I think we both agree that the difference would be most felt by the badminton players and so, the badminton courts should take priority.
     

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