HSBC BWF World Tour Finals 2022 (formerly Race to Guangzhou)

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  1. BadSmashPdx

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    The cancellation of many events, means that in early November we could see the standing on World Tour Finals so early.

    Observation on 2022 Australian Open (7000 points for winner):

    MS: 2 seats are open. LZJ. LGZ, LKY and LS are in Australian Open so their chance of coming to Guangzhao are still open.
    WS: All 8 seats are set. AY is not competing in Australian Open but she is still in. Both WZY and HY are not eligible because China has 2 WS already in top 8.
    MD: Rankireddy./Shetty has a slim chance if the pair wins Australian Open by replacing Choi/Kim

    WD: All 8 seats are set.
    XD: One seat still open.
     
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    Highly unlikely it will be canceled. Plan is already published to host it in a closed loop. BWF will even pay for the players to get to Bangkok and get tested before flying into Guangzhou.
     
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    MS : LS (Sen) is NOT playing Aus Open.
     
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    Not sure how relevant this is for the tournament but China have reduced the quarantine period to five days plus 3 days home quarantine.

    No flight bans for those carriers that have positive cases.
     
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    The Finals will go ahead as scheduled (14-18 December), except massive point also alluring prize-money as well (in terms of badminton standard), this event is less prestigious and remembered than World Championships even All England.
     
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    The schedule is shifted one week earlier, 7-11 December 2022.
    Bangkok had hosted World Tour Finals previously, 2020 edition that rolled on January 2021.

    Starting next year, there's modification, more stringent criteria for BWF World Tour Finals Qualifier.
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    No super 750 no super 1000 and now world tour final relocated to Thailand
     
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    Race to BANGKOK!
    Relocating makes so much sense. They should have relocated the others as well.
    Now I wonder if those whose rankings were iffy but backed out from Sathio are regretting it.
     
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    I think usually 12 tournaments for next year WR and WTF will be just nice. with that many tournaments, 10 will be too little while 14 as in the case of WTF is still too many.

    I know players get injured like Minions only 7 tournaments and Momota too perhaps but its just part of the game. F1 drivers can travel to 22/24 countries playing in much more intense and extreme sports. Playing in 20 tournaments should be easy no doubt.
     
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    BWF should exclude S300 & S100 tour for World Tour Finals point calculation if its goal to showcase world's best players.
    19 tournaments, composition of S1000 (4), S750 (6) , S500 (9) are more than enough.
     
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    Thread title updated
     
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    to be fair not many are more remembered than AE. Not even World Championships. It still lacks the tradition and history compared to AE. WC is fairly new was it like in 1980s just started? . Some open tournaments are older than that. Just because of WorldChampion branding doesnt make it bigger than AllEngland.

    When i grew up as kids in 90s all i hear is AllEngland and always looking forwards to it. Its funny because WC is already available back then albeit bi annuall, its rarely ever heard of.
     
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    I think there is no need for this. According to the latest publications, only the three best results from grade 2 count towards grade 6 for each player anyway. So only the players who are in the front places in the BWF1000, 750 and maybe 500 will qualify anyway. According to this new questionable rule, e.g. VA with wins at the Malaysia Open and India Open in January 2023 and the All England in March 2023 could already qualify for the WTF 2023 for sure.
     
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    Quality > quantity, their current criteria to include all the tours (S100 to S1000) is totally messed up.
     
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    S100 will naturally drop away.

    S300 are under the definition of world tour events so it’s difficult to exclude them.

    WT finals is different from best players. If we want the top best eight, why not just go on world rankings and get rid of the world tour. But then again having a World tour offers greater chances for generating sponsorship and revenue.
     
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    Basically the idea of World Tour rebranding is nothing but tennis copycat.
    There's wide gap between World Ranking and World Tour Ranking for some qualifiers, BWF just realized this absurdity then imposing new rules, modification to reduce number of tournaments to count, best 14 result for 2023 event onwards.
     
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    BWF has released the latest update of World Tour Ranking (22/11/2022)

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    Axelsen (WR : 1 / total tour : 9)*World Champion
    Chou TC (4 / 12)
    Prannoy (12 / 14)
    Christie (5 / 13)
    Naraoka (15 / 12)
    Lu GZ (19 / 14)
    Ginting (6 / 12)
    Loh KY (3 / 12)

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    Chen YF (WR : 3 / total tour : 12)
    Tai TY (2 / 11)
    He BJ (5 / 12)
    An SY (4 / 11)
    Intanon (7 / 11)
    Ongbamrungphan (10 / 15)
    Yamaguchi (1 / 9)*World Champion
    Tunjung (19 / 11)

    - P.V. Sindhu will skip World Tour Finals due to injury recovery process citing this news : https://indianexpress.com/article/s...u-pulls-out-of-bwf-world-tour-finals-8266540/
    - Han Y, Wang ZY, Katethong, Chochuwong are excluded as quota criteria states only two highest ranked players per nation are qualified.
     
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