TOTAL BWF WORLD Championships 2018 : DRAW

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  1. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

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    He Bingjiao has Chochuwong Pornpawee who counts Marin and Nozomi as her scalps in R2, then Michelle Li in R3, after that a meeting with ,of all persons, Tai TY, in the QFs - you call that a good draw? Which WS relish playing the world no.1 TTY as early as the QFs ?! And, even if she unexpectedly clears the toughest hurdle, awaiting her in the semis would probably be Intanon RatchaNok, Carolina Marin or Saina Nehwal, if not Sayaka Sato or Sonia Cheah ?

    As for Chen Yufei, she has the fast improving Gregoria Mariska in R2, then a posible R3 meeting with teammate Chen Xiaoxin, the only third representative from CHN (yes, only 3 candidates, not 4) who might face early elimination by her compatriot, and then who would be waiting for her at the QFs but none other than the formidable No.2 seed, Akane Yamaguchi ! That's one big hurdle to clear before she faces another formidable JPN WS, the reigning world champion Nozomi Okuhara, who , in my opinion, is the one can take on the hot favourite, Tai TY.

    Thus, in my opinion, I won't say it's a good draw for the two CHN WS (forget about CXX who's return from injury is fraught with difficulties) - out of three CHN WS (unlike JPN and THA who each have four reps), only two may survive until the Quarterfinals and unlikely beyond that, at best, I think. To make matters worse, He Bingjiao whom I regarded as the strongest of the three CHN WS is very unlikely to be able to resolve her fitness/stamina issue in just three weeks from the INA Open WTS1000 event where she was still struggling with it, losing to TTY twice in two weeks including the MAS Open the previous week.

    Therefore, there's a high chance we might not see any CHN WS in the semifinals. In other words, I seriously doubt either HBJ or CYF can pull off any big upsets in their respective half of the draw.
     
  2. Justin L

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    I guess it's matter of perception who has the better draw but I'd like to think I'm being objective enough not to indulge in wishful thinking.
     
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    Even for CHN MD, I don't think highly of Li JH/Liu YC or Zhang Nan/Liu Cheng if their recent results are any indication where Li/Liu was even beaten by the Russian pair, Ivanov/Sozonov, and Zhang/Liu was defeated by a certain TPE pair besides others.
     
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    For sure, there won't be any all-CHN affairs, not impossible but highly improbable.
     
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    Hahaha Nope. But it could give some people (in host country) hope. For another domination :D:p
     
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    Li/Liu's (or solely Li's) condition is still a question mark since that Malaysia Open Semifinal. So if that was something that could be solved or overcome (injury or illness), their chance of getting through is quite high.

    Liu/Zhang was defeated by TPE pair? Who? As far as I can remember, they were defeated by Goh/Tan (Malaysian Master and Malaysia Open) , Alfian/Ardianto (Indonesia Open), Marcus/Kevin (TC), Kamura/Sonoda (BAC).. there were more?
     
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    As for CHN WD, the four JPN WD pairs are a formidable group. Besides, Chen/Jia and Du Yue/Li Yinhui are slated for a R3 clash, that eliminates one pair and the survivor has Polli/Rahayu as their possible QFs hurdle, an unwelcome prospects,I'm sure.

    Chen Qingchen/Jia Yifan have their work cut out for them as the defending world champion and these few months in the run-up to the Nanjing WC, all we've seen are their vulnerabilities which alarm even their coaches. I'd say, they have at most an outside chance of an appearance in the final, not to say retaining the world title.

    Huang Dongping/Li Wenmei , should they pass R1 the TPE pair of Hsu Ya Ching/Wu Ti Jung, would immediately come up against one of the intimidating JPN foursome, Wakana/Mayu only to have another even more formidable JPN pair of Misaki/Ayaka in R3 !. That would probably spell the end of HDP/LWM 's campaign.

    And for the last remaining pair of Huang Yaqiong/Yu Xiaohan whom I regarded the weakest of the four CHN WDs, they are slated to meet one of the formidable JPN foursome, Tanaka/Yonemoto in R3, after that even if they manage to get past the INA WD, Haris/Pradipta, by no means an easy feat in the QFs - wait,I don't think I need to go further as this WR12 CHN pair has only a slim chance of going deep as they can very well be knocked anytime every step of the way even before the semifinals where awaiting them would probably be the intimidating contender, JPN WD Fukushima/Hirota. End of story as that's the furthest HYQ/YXH can go, but I personally doubt we may even see them contesting the semis.
     
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    There you see, the list of pairs you provided who knocked them out is bad enough, even if my memory fails me in thinking they lost to a certain TPE pair , it doesn't change the point I'm trying make. Thanks for the info, anyway.
     
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    Are there any MD pairs that haven't lost to many other pairs? Except Marcus/Kevin and even they lost to a scratch pair and unseeded pair?
    The pairs that had knocked them out probably have lost as many or even more than Liu/Zhang have this year. And they lost most of their matches in a close 3 games, so I don't think (and I watched most of their matches) they are doing that bad or even inconsistent in their performances compared to most pairs. They just need to do better in service situation and of course less mistakes from Liu.

    My only concern about Liu/Zhang is that ZN doing double duties. His performance in MD gets affected whenever he does.
     
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    I'm talking about the main contenders, Marcus/Kevin are still winning titles, the CHN pairs haven't for quite some time. That's the big difference.
     
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    If you guys think I'm deliberately trying to downplay the chances of the CHN Team, just do a search of the Chinese sports newsmedia and you'll find a number of them, sportswriters and bloggers, sharing my gloomy outlook and negative sentiments.
     
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    You sound like someone familiar. Titles are the most important.
    Well I don't know about you but I want to see Marcus/Kevin vs Liu/Zhang in final.
     
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    Must be a very good moral boost for the players. so nice to be chinese players.
     
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    What does it matter? If they have TTY and AY in the quarters, the semis will be "easier". If you want to win the title, you have to beat #1 and #2 respectively, and then someone of the PVS/NO/RI category, or the other way around. If you want to become world champion, the order in which you play them doesn't matter one bit, be it TTY->RI or RI-->TTY.

    And of course Michelle Li for HBJ and Cheung Ngan Yi/Chen Xiaoxin for CYF are much easier draws than SJH for PVS, BWZ for TTY or SN for RI. SJH and SN are players you can actually lose against at this stage. If HBJ or especially CYF lose to Michell Li or Cheung Ngan Yi/Chen Xiaoxin (CYF "faces elimination"? by her?) on home ground in the most important tournament of the year, they need to hang up their rackets. In fact, I think that HBJ and CYF have the best draws in WS together with Marin.
     
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    WS and XD is a good draw for China. It doesnt matter if they play TTY or whoever, as long as they are separated, chances will always be higher. and its singles, anything can happen plus CYF/HBJ are seeded (Top 8 even) means they are not bad.

    Its just the other 3 sectors not so good. From the mental aspect to beat Chinese opponent in China. Its because this has never happened, Like Olympic SF, there was never China vs China in 3 of the past Olympics, if it has, I bet LCW would have gotten gold in 1 of those 3 at least ( the fact that he beaten 3 chinese 3x and lost in the final to chinese 3x cant be coincidence, it was manipulation). so , i will clap my hand if LD can beat SYQ and win WC then i will say that is legend.

    WD, do you think DY/LYH will just give up like that? and playings against GreysAp, i cant wait for that match. This is tough draw for Seed 1.
     
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    My point is meeting TTY or AY in the QFs that is the issue. We're talking about the draws not winning the title eventually which entails, of course, beating anyone and everyone that's in your way, no matter who.

    For example, do you relish having Nozomi meeting TTY in the QFs ?
     
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    Do you wish for LCW to meet K Momota in the early rounds, say QFs ?

    The thing about meeting 3 CHN players, it only matters if all three CHN opponents are top 3/4. Surely you don't expect non-CHN opponents of LCW to just roll over for him or just give up to ensure an easy passage for him, do you ? This is an old excuse for LCW's defeat to Lin Dan and Chen Long as if the two CHN champions have easier opponents or never encounter tough ones along the way time and again. The draw is a coincidence as far as how it went by seeding and randomly.

    The CHN player LCW lost to 3x in the finals of those majors, are none other than either Lin Dan or later Chen Long. Would it be better for LCW to face off these two archrivals earlier ? I doubt so.

    Fret now, in the coming Nanjing WC, LCW's greatest threat comes from Momota in the semis, no one else. Once he crosses that hurdle, he's on the way to crowning himself world champion, that elusive gold finally, finally. Let's wish him the best.

    The draw is not too bad for LCW, I seriously doubt Brice Leverdez can trouble him this time in the opening round, no way he's going to repeat the same mistake as in Glasgow. My only concern is his stamina at the semis whether the accumulated fatigue is still bearable for I believe, in terms of technical skills, knowledge and experience, LCW is superior to Momota.

    That's why I hope LCW resets his priorities to aim more for the WC before gunning for the AG that follows where accumulated fatigue is more likely to take its toll in the third consecutive weeks of competition. Personally, I feel that LCW deserves at least one major title. Time is really running out for him, strike while the iron is hot.
     
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    OTOH, it might be a better idea for LCW to meet KM earlier when his stamina is still not bad, but not so good if he has lining up for him the following rounds opponents like Lin Dan, Chen Long, Viktor Axelsen in succession.

    Nonetheless, I believe in LCW's current form, he is the only one who can stop Momota, and the rest are less of a threat even if he's a little tired (it'd be worse for Lin Dan in that regard).

    All the best to LCW at Nanjing.
     
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    Well I still hope for Lin Dan to excel once in a while. This could be another one of his rare time after AE and NZ.
     
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    In WS, I believe only Nozomi comes closest to threatening TTY and as they are in opposite halves of the draw, a face-off between the two is highest on paper. We should be in for a treat though the defending champion would've her work cut out for her.
     

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