Chinese Badminton

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  1. Justin L

    Justin L Regular Member

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    Good point and suggestion.I supposed you mean 'too exclusive'.
     
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    Sorry. yes you are right.
    The head coaches have a huge responsibilty.
    I hope all of them select
    capable assistants to help them carry out their workload. They should be managing and planning not coaching. Let the individual coaches do that as thats their job. They just stay in the background and enjoy the results.
     
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  3. Justin L

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    From what I know, both Xia Xuanze and Zhang Jun are the hands-on type, I doubt they will just do managing and planning wihtout getting involved in the coaching.
     
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    XXZ's assignments are a lot tougher than Zhang Jun's.

    XXZ has to groom the next patch of MS players: THW, Shi YQ, QB, etc..

    Yet he can only send two players to Tokyo 2020.

    Worst, he is starting from scratch on the women's singles team.
     
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    I don't see how that may be the case. Singles strategy seperated from doubles makes sense. You only have to come together for Sudirman Cup and Thomas/Uber Cups.
     
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    No central head for an organisation... China is changing indeed! Well lets' see if it works
     
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    Everyone is aware that he is in charge but empowerment encourages your team to perform. Of course he is always giving his advice and views during the training. But if you allow your coaches to be seen with their charges they will appreciate being involved directly. Yes be seen now and then to give support and encouragement but dont go into detail management and hog the glory.
     
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    Sorry, I forgot to make myself clear that I was translating the author's view expressed in his article pcll99 posted.
     
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    Trying to understand the new CBA coaching team from other sports such as TT, volleyball, I don't see why XXZ and ZJ won't be assisted by a team incl. several assistants to cover several special tasks in the daily routine tasks, for instance to do the tracking of any particular player or pair with ranking point related matters and many others. (In volleyball, the coaching team even employs some IT specialists to manage computerized stats such as the individual records of foreign players, the stats within a match etc etc). And typical China, most likely it won't be the one-man show in all kinds of organization, from the political, military, R&D, industrial to many social functions incl. the sports. It is simply not part of the modern culture of China for such self-centered lone performer as known in individualistic society, in all aspects of life. One is recognized as outstanding and performing and earn the respect in his role by the peers and group and higher level but NOT, far away from any self-acclaimed act... yet he still works together as a team... you may call it principally a communal culture! So many instances in the modern history of China, one may wish to learn the history of the star scientist as well as the influential leader in his fields (one of the most prominent scientists in the 20th century, not just within China but also at the world level, and supposed he was not a Chinese, the co-founder of JPL would have been known as a Nobel Laureate), the late Qian Xuesen 钱学森. Just fyi, so highly regarded that after his retirement every taikonaut would pay a visit to the old Qian at his sickbed after returning to earth to give the old man some brief on personal account out of respect, this tradition lasted until his passing. And sport is not an ivory tower either. Of course one may agree or disagree with such way; however, it's simply a China's way, and a proven way in many fields of real life!

    Back to the CBA, it won't differ in any way, some figures will be appointed to lead as always, but at the end they will still work together as a team.

    So just give time for the new leads to work out their programs, be patient for the yields... just for the example, the women's volleyball took several years to rise again after down to the new low in modern era in 2012, for the men's volleyball team they even recently recruited a foreign coach [an Argentinian of Italian descendant, I believe] for the very first time, the famous Yao Ming was just appointed as the new head of China's basketball recently to give the sport a new life, women's volleyball also has changes in coaching team, new positions are created for Lang Ping and An Jiajie, the TT has changes in coaching team as well. So long as the badminton is still a popular sport in China, with the infrastructure is still intact from talent breeding, scouting, domestic incl. school, club, provincial competitions, coaching programs and so on... at various levels from the early ages, badminton will still prevail... the huge pool of human resources in an effectively managed nation truly matters!

    Btw I think some posters maintain too much sentiment against the figure of Li Yongbo for whatever reasons or motives... even to the level of his detractors, esp. when the achievement is experiencing some sunset.

    Well, best wishes for the new team to reach new highs again!

    Let me quote the famous saying of the Chinese great philosopher:

    "Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." - Confucius (551-479 BCE)
     
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    Comments made are always about the state of Chinas badminton. Nothing personal as we dont know any of them.
    Why do the taikonauts pay respect to Qian Xuesen; because he is accepted as the father of Chinas space industry. He spent his life to making China what it is today in the space industry; not measured by medals and adornments.
    For badminton I think Tang Hsien Hu is one of many deserving that respect. These people dedicated their life for the love of the sport and in doing that respect and recognition is freely given.
    Since then I am afraid this mantle is still non existent.
    Who will be the father of Chinas badminton future?
     
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    Lei jun will be new secretary general .. he is from baseball... speaks english well... glad to meet him.. lyb will handle olympic jobs.. s
     
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    I think this is my first pist after 4/5 years?
     
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    Good to see u again, ah hau.

    Will LYB take LLW's job at BWF and be made a council member?
     
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    It will be Tang jiu Hong
     
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    Thank you very much.

    Do you mean Lei Jun will be the new secretary general of BWF? If yes, that would be an extraordinary piece of information!!

    or do you mean Mr Lei Jun will be a vice president of BWF like LYB's previous boss?
     
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    I think he meant the new secretary general of the Chinese Ping Pong and Badminton Center, effectively the head of those two sports in China.

    Tang Jiu Hong, the former WS World Champion, will be the Chinese rep at BWF.
     
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    I miss Tang Jiuhong. She is not the coach for WS?
     
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    I think you are referring to Zhang Ning, the two-time Olympic champion. Tang JiuHong is from a different generation. She was the World Champion in 1991 and an Olympic bronze medalist in 1992.
     
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    I'm not sure if I should bring this up - the other day on zhangyutv, it was rumoured that Chen Jin is no longer the CHN WS coach but nobody confirmed it. The fact that he was noticeably absent at the BAC held in Wuhan, China, is telling.
     
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    Its quite interesting that a provincial team is taking part in the Victor international Series in Indonesia. A province in China is as large as some countries and their GDP as well. So if provinces have the budget they can do the same and send their teams overseas to get experience. Presently the performance of this fairly young team is not bad.
    Their MS have progressed better than in the Thailand tournament but XD have not as well as WD.
    Lets hope we can see more provincial teams following this "trend"
     
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