Really, can you guys take this 'debate' to another thread? The VT80 doesn't take some special 'wrist technique'.
Here are two scenarios: first if you use wrist twist only and no arm pronation at the elbow, you will end up with tendinitis at the lower thumb muscle. Secondly if you use arm only with no wrist twist, you end up with tennis elbow. With a moderately stiff racquet, any over exertion of either muscle movement between these two that I mentioned will lead you closer to either damage that I have talked about. You just have to utilise a good combination of arm pronation followed by wrist twist to play properly to avoid damage. The stiffer a racquet, the more refined this technique will have to be. From your description I believe you are trying your best to describe the technique but overall it reads like a mess and does not show the importance of the technique I described at all. It will confuse a lot of beginner and to some extent intermediate players who are looking to refine their technique and misguide them into possibly damaging themselves.
I agree blitz statement. I have the vt80 and seriously I'm not a very strong guy. However I'm already getting use to the vt80 and can use it for the whole 2 hours session wit a lot of swings and smashes. It's the technique that counts and there r times where both arm and wrist are needed. If u concentrate on using just one, it would be tiring and by the ed if the session, ur arms or wrist will be too tired to move.
I find gripping the VT80 slightly higher up than usual (covering 2/3rds of the cup serial) really helps. It allows you to hold the racket further up the handle (imo the handle is already too short) and is less strenuous on shoulders and offers more power. Going to try it out on Saturday and report back.
I also don't understand where this muscle fatigue thing is coming from. If you were in a training drill for hours, then perhaps I could understand it. Otherwise, it just sounds like bad technique.
imo also depend on our condition at time of play...enuff sleep, no eating, tiresome etc....otherwise, need to improve the technique and strenght. i am working on it...
I'm very sorry for bad explanation and confusing many people. I apologize for the debate that disturbing another. To clear this thing out,I'll shorten my opinion on the technique Both arm and wrist are used for making shot.But wrist is more used than arm. Because wrist hold more power than arm and torsion will be better from wrist rather arm. Maybe like (70 wrist : 30 arm) This is my opinion and my technique. I did used arm mostly before,rather than wrist and I found my shot is so bad (short clear,weak smash) I do agree with blitzzards that arm and wrist are important. But everybody has their own technique. Above all,I apologize for bad explanation and misunderstanding. Thanks for the correction. . . .
The price of VT80 in Beijing bbesport for Tw,CN, & SP is RMB 1030 while for JP is RMB 1380. Are there prices considered cheaper or expensive?
Okay, I am (like quite a few players here) a die-hard Ti10 fan, and have been since it first came out. I love offensive head heavy rackets, extra stiff shaft, etc. I've bought and tried the VT80 (admittedly, for 2 hours only) but it was a disaster. It was SO flexible, it felt horrible. I used to own an Arc10 and it felt similar to that, except more head heavy. Have other Ti10 users tried the VT80? Do I just need more time to get used it?
Played singles again last night. Didn't get many games in cuz stupid traffic made me late. Lost 1st game (12-15) cuz my netplay sucked. It sucked all night. Won the 2nd game (15-12) and led the 3rd game (7-6) until time ran out. My friend is hating his VT70 cuz he still can't smash well.
I have both the VT-70 and VT-80 in 3UG5. Personally I prefer the VT-80 over the VT-70. It's a much better racket. I recommend that you get the 4U for doubles as 3U can slow down the racket speed. I think some of the people on here are getting the wrong idea when complaining about vendors selling the JP at a premium. Yonex never intend to sell JP code outside of Japan. It's the vendors that are able to get the JP code and then reselling them at a higher price. It's the vendors doing and has nothing to do with Yonex. Also, when I was in Japan for vacation, I was able to purchase racket like AT700, AT900T at lower price then the vendors here in the US with US coded racket. Online vendors know that you are willing to pay a premium for JP coded racket so they jack up the price on purpose to make a profit. Some of them are charging $240-$260 USD for an AT700 JP code, but I got my AT700 in Japan for less then $170 USD.
Thanks for the mini-review david14700. Can I ask what level of player you are? What level of player are you and your friend?
@ssj100 - I mentioned in the thread already. I'm average to intermediate, not a beginner. I can get around the court OK but not great. I'm average in all areas but weak with backhand clears.
His backhand clear is better than mine. He's weak in drops and netplay. I would say I'm slightly better than him (before getting new rackets).