All 6 Chinese female singles are all in the first half! what's the chance! (50%)^6 = 1.5% The chance is only 1.5%, which means only happens once in every 64 times. In statistics, there is a 68-95-99 rule: 1 standard deviation, is 68%, which means most things should be in this. 2 standard deviation is at 95%, which means the rest 5% almost impossible! 3 standard deviation is at 99%, which means there is no way for the 1% event. Now the women single draw for Chinese players happened at 1.5% which is extremely fishy!
even with Wang Yi Han's in the bottom half, the statistics doesn't change at all. Because Wang YH's position is fixed by regulation as the 2nd seed, must be in the bottom half against top seed Wang Shixian. As a fixed point, it has nothing to do with probability. Except Wang YH and Wang SX, all the others are random, only have 50% in each half. That's where the probability comes to play.
then it should be (50%)^5 as u say 1st seed is also fixed anyway,in math,possibility that bigger than 0 mean it can happen hehe
How many Chinese WS players? No matter how many, all the female singles could go either way, end up in the first half. That's really fish!
I agree with you. If it is any other country, other than China, there would be uproar, fixed and pissed, and %*$# all over this forum. But CHN being a powerhouse, most people want to see her lose, that is why this crappy draw has no supporter for CHN. AE quarantee to have a no-ALL-CHN WSF. The WSF would be a joke with one lucky player going to the final w/o facing a CHN WS player.
Well, at least one of the finalists is not going to be from China. The Great Wall has been broken not by the strength of its opponent, but by the luck of the draw, LOL.
It's women's singles, no one can be bothered anyhow. Same if it were WD ... Thankfully the :cry: emoticon has been removed
All 4 of INA XD is in the upper half as well.... 6.25% chances of it happening, yet, it happens anyway. You people and your fishy here, fishy there theory
Except that AE is a premier super series and mandatory for top 10 players to participate where pts count towards OLY, only to find themselves placed in the same half to eliminate each other, that is not fair. And one lucky player going to the final from the other half would get more pts just for showing up in the final. Put one CHN WS player in the other half, that would be hell for those 'lucky' players In OLY and WC, the rule apply that no 2 same player from one nation will be draw in the same half. There is 5 events in baddy, I admit WD and XD I am not much for them. But WS, MS and MD, I am sure would generate more interest among fans, esp those who pay to watch live.
That is true, except those INA XD players are 'bridesmaid' and not expected to go far (sorry to INA fans, but true). Any of the CHN WS players would be a handful for any player from the rest of the world. Any player from the rest of the world want to play WX, WSX, JYJ or wanna see them play each other and eliminate each other first?
Bridesmaid/fillers aside, I thought we are discussing the fishiness of the draw due to the occurence of something with very low probability? Simply pointing out the china WS are not the only one tossed on the otherside of the law of probability. Heck, as long as the probability isn't 0, it can happen. Not will, but can
Except for China, it has now become a more level-playing field for the rest of the world. But I think it's good for the sport.
If that's true, it verifies more Since INA did pretty poor, All females lost in the 1st round, therefore, having them all together would help them avoid elimination all in the first round. INA would be very happy to see they were group in the same branch of the draw. Chinese WS are different, they are strong. For strong players, they don't want to meet together earlier. But for week players, they should be happy to meet together so that at least not elminated all in early rounds. That's the difference. Besides the outcome results, from audiences and organizations sides, people don't want to see such things too. Players spent big money for airline ticket and hotel fees, coming from tens of thousands of miles, accross the world, just for playing their teammates who playing everyday. If BWF likes this way to gurantee at least one non-Chinese in the final, why not just make a new rule, that each country can send only one people. Let the 1st round, 2nd round,.. all earlier rounds in their own country, just play the final round in England. That will at least save the travel expenses and hotel fees.
Concur it is the luck of the draw according to Probability 101. I don't think there is any week old fishy smell here and those girls wear deodorant before they come on court The top half will be tensed as any of the CHN girls know each other strength and can beat each other whoever hits top form. Seeing the other half, SN looks good to go to final, my bet to walk to WSF except to lose
Ranking points matter not much when it comes to CHN WS playing each other. Rest of the world matchup against each other is a level playing field, sure. Non CHN WS final may generate interest and as you say, good for baddy, and prolly may generate support for the non-CHS player facing off against the CHN player as majority of fans would like to see a power house detrone. But come the WSF, I bet the lucky player from the other half going to WSF would not take one set from any CHN WS player. If the lucky player is SN, she may provide some resistance but still 0-2 score.
agree it will be tough for the non-CHN player but someone like SN has beaten a few of them in the past - at the very least i remember her beating Shixian Wang and Lan Lu in recent past.
Even a month ago is already 'the past' and is history. SN must be salivating her chance of going to AE WSF, collect big WR points and at the very least runner-up cheque of prolly $15K...still 0-2 is my bet for SN or any other WS player coming out of the bottom half.
