View Full Version : Does paint affects the performance of the string?
As you know in all major tournaments, the strings are painted with the product logo on it e.g. YY and some people have their string painted as well, using gloss paint?. My question is will the paint spoil/affect the performance of the string?
shaun 03-18-2001, 09:43 PM hmm thats a really good question.........I dont know! i want to find out toooo
perhaps it becomes more slippery ,if you slice or slide (which is the right word?).
--olli
Kelvin 03-19-2001, 01:40 AM No not necessarily.
What it does do, is muck up your shuttle really good.
Basically the logo is just to help promote the sponsors equipment some more.
But here's an interesting subject to think about...
could you make the paint on your racquet a certain consistency, and possibly cheat, by making it stickier???
I don't know, just my though... I think the paints are supposed to be tried completely though before you're allowed to play with it.
I don't get the logo put on anymore as it's a fairly messy thing to deal with.
Ni, they dun affect. cos the string is able to absord the wet competely so it will not be slippery. The string is made of syn. It is the same theory as wearing a painted shoes and running in the field and wearing a non-painted one so u can see that there is no differences
Yes and no. There are basically two types of stencil color: ink and paint. The most common one is the red ink which is thin and will not affect performance. On many new racquets (Carltons for instance) the color is a black paint which is sometimes laid on quite thick. This increases the wear of the string (the paint can result in "grooves" with quite sharp edges) so that it will break sooner.
u r very knowledgeable abt badminton
Yudhi 03-19-2001, 06:48 AM Anyone of you here has got the original Yonex stencil card, which is for the logo and the Yonex stencil ink???????????
Kelvin 03-19-2001, 08:02 AM I do.
It's all mucky like I said.
why?
Yudhi 03-19-2001, 08:23 AM Kelvin where did you get those stuff?
Is it original from YY?
Kelvin 03-19-2001, 09:07 AM Yes, I bought it from Yonex a few years ago...
You have to shake the ink up really well, or it will come out all clumpy, and yuck.
I don't use it anymore though.
Only cost me a total of $10 Canadian.
which is about $4-5 USD.
Special deal, since I bought in quantity back then, but it's allll but gone now.
I still have a clean new stencil, and black ink bottle though.
Yudhi 03-19-2001, 09:18 AM Did you have the stencil card?
Do you want to sell it to me?
Come on guys... it's the simplest thing to do your own! :)
Yudhi 03-19-2001, 09:47 AM How to do it on our own?
Brett 03-19-2001, 11:15 AM Mag, I also noticed that black paint on the factory string on my new Airblade 600Ti and it did seem a bit thick. By the way, it appeared to me the factory string on my Carlton was a monofilament line and from both its appearance and from everything I've ever heard about factory string from any brand of racquets, it seems that I should replace it with a better string. What do you think? What string do you use on your Carltons? A friend of mine who strings racquets has a reel of Ashaway Microlegend and I was thinking about using some of that (he also tells me that Microlegend keeps its tension much better than the BG-65 that I have been using). Of course, I may wait a while to restring, depending on whether and how Carlton responds to my inquiries about a replacement under warranty.
Kelvin 03-19-2001, 07:00 PM It's honestly nothing really important.
I was helping friends do that way back in highschool.
Now they don't even give a crap.
It's only for show anyways.
However, I garauntee you that if you do the job yourself, it's a lot better than the job that the factories do, eg. Brett's factory strings... it's done by machine.
shaun 03-19-2001, 11:26 PM now why would u want to paint a yonex logo on ur strings? i think that looks too OEMish
cooler 03-19-2001, 11:44 PM No logo on my racket... yonex can't afford my endorsement fee. ;)
Kelvin 03-20-2001, 02:45 AM hehehe... Go Cooler!!! :)
The string that comes with the mid- to high-end Carltons is OK, but not great. It's a multi-filament string (at least it was on all my racquets) and it has decent feel but it breaks real fast. I think it's actually because of the thick paint, which almost glues cross and main strings together, making the strings stretch unnaturally when you hit the shuttle hard. Two of my factory stringings broke during the first session... which must be more than just bad luck.
I string my Carltons with BG-80. I've tried several others, but this is what I always return to. It suits me the best. I've tried some of the new Ti-coated strings, Ashaway Rally 22Ti and BG68-Ti, and they perform great but the strings tend to move around a lot, and I find it quite irritating to have to "groom" my racquet between every rally.
viver 03-20-2001, 09:37 PM I also prefer BG80 to the new BG68-TI. Probably I strung both at 24lbs. The TI seems to have more elasticity, probably should have tried a little bit higher tension. Well I'll leave it for the next stringing.
About the colors, it occured to me now, I any of you noticed any difference between same strings but with different colors? Say elasticity (propulsion?) of BG65 white color not same as BG65 black color, strung by same stringer, same machine, same tension and same brand racquet? (say YY Carbonex 15)
Kelvin 03-20-2001, 09:49 PM Are you serious???
I haven't noticed unfortunately, as now I only use white strings, to disguise my shots better ;)
cooler 03-20-2001, 10:41 PM viver, i have the similar conception ( black vs white string) too but I dont have enough hard data to prove that theory. One other possibility that could caused the string difference is string freshness. Many stringers has batches of strings bought at different time interval and can yield different repulsion characteristic.
Kelvin, my string are fresh and stored properly (trade secret)
viver 03-21-2001, 01:38 AM That's hard to tell Cooler since the strings were purchased at same time from same person. At that time we usually buy by batch that is at least 100 sets of 1 model. But noticed pattern frequently though the seller said he got the strings directly from the distributor.
cooler 03-21-2001, 02:53 AM if the bg65 were bot at the same time, geez, that eliminate one more variable of this puzzle. So maybe color does has influence on string charactistic of the same string type(bg65) as we first thought.
Kelvin 03-21-2001, 07:46 AM I know that now Cooler, seeing as I'm 95% sure of you're identity now.
hehehe...
Kelvin 03-21-2001, 07:48 AM Now that's very interesting... then which one of the string colors, offer the best control/power if you can characterize it this way, over all?
I still stick with white.
I dont want to lose that deceptive edge. ;)
viver 03-21-2001, 09:19 PM Stick to white. It appears to me that the black strings that I used had less propulsion.
cooler 03-22-2001, 01:19 AM can't tell u the string color i'm using, u r getting too close on my identity.
Kelvin 03-22-2001, 03:45 AM Actually I meant... what color string provides the better qualities... I'm not that sneaky. :)
silentlight 11-24-2002, 05:43 PM Somebody recently told me that the white strings last longer than the colored ones maybe because of the dye? Can anyone corroborate this from experience?
cooler 11-24-2002, 06:29 PM do a search
LazyBuddy 11-24-2002, 09:52 PM I've heard comments like this, too.
However, I think hard hitter will change their string quite often anyway. For players who don't do hard hit, or don't play on a regular basis, they need to change string when it lose tension or become dead (say, 1 yr).
Therefore, I never really care whether this rumor is true or not. I just pick color base on the paint of my rackets.
silentlight 11-24-2002, 10:45 PM Actually shouldn't the opposite be true, the dye should help keep the string together no matter how little that factor may be, unless the dye was eating the string in which case string manufacturers are stupid.
LazyBuddy 11-24-2002, 10:56 PM I think the color may "shorten" the life of string, due to possible chemical reactions. However, just a matter of how serious that will be.
If just a small percentage, I don't see the point that should be even consider as a factor when we pick string. If quite serious (which I don't think so), then, white all the way lor...
bigredlemon 11-25-2002, 12:41 AM perhaps if the paint is hard and ridgit, it may break during a smash, and act like microscopic knives that cut up the string, much like freezing something weakens it because the microscopic ice shards cut the food?
Joanne 11-25-2002, 09:01 AM Hmm, I can't really tell, cuz most of the racquets I use are white stringed. Only have one that's grey, but I rarely use that.
I remember reading another thread about painting logo on the string might decrease the lifespan of the string. the same reason there might apply to this case as well. actually, how do we know that strings are naturally white? maybe they are painted white too. :D
silentlight 11-25-2002, 09:42 AM I wouldn't know though since I've never used any other color other than white. Jwu's right, how do we know that the strings are naturally white? What color is cow or whatever gut anyway?
Joanne 11-25-2002, 09:53 AM That's true, the natural colour could even be black!
I do research here with mice and the gut is definitely not white like the string so I am pretty sure that white is not the natural color anyway. Now another interesting question might be, would different color affect string life? Since different colors have different properties and makeup.
LazyBuddy 11-25-2002, 11:34 AM Originally posted by jwu
I do research here with mice and the gut is definitely not white like the string so I am pretty sure that white is not the natural color anyway.
I think this actually true for natural gut. However, how many ppl here really use natural gut? Consider the price, I won't.
I believe most string we use, are some chemical product, which color is the original? I have no idea.
Joanne 11-25-2002, 11:14 PM But to tell you the truth, I don't think the colour will affect your game. I mean, if the string breaks then just get a new one, you will never know the reason it broke, could be something you did, could be the brand of the string, or the quality.
angelus_2012 11-25-2002, 11:27 PM well, any color of rackets fits with white strings.... it looks nice and not funny...
just put your rackets with white strings...
Joanne 11-25-2002, 11:44 PM well, some people think coloured strings looks nicer.......:o
Sheldon 11-26-2002, 09:04 AM They make you look better cos you've gone and bothered to change/replace your strings........course it's always funny seeing crap people who do that lose abysmally.....to me hahrahrhar.............yeah I would like some coloured strings.....i got mine restrung but with thite strings.......doh
newest experiment, I strung one of my older racquet with neon yellow Gosen GS88 string and played last night. the gym was very well-lit and my opponent complaint to me after the game that my string was a distraction. :D Maybe that's a new use for colored string, a slight advantage.
Joanne 11-26-2002, 10:13 AM hmm, great idea, jwu. lol, I'll do my strings shiny gold next time, if they have such a colour, lol. :D :D :D
Originally posted by Joanne
hmm, great idea, jwu. lol, I'll do my strings shiny gold next time, if they have such a colour, lol. :D :D :D
hmmm I think gold strings are available. They have so many crazy colors, more so in asia then here in US. :D Good luck finding one. Gosen makes REALLY shiny neon yellow ones. :D
Originally posted by jwu
I remember reading another thread about painting logo on the string might decrease the lifespan of the string. the same reason there might apply to this case as well. actually, how do we know that strings are naturally white? maybe they are painted white too. :D
I believe it's Sheep gut?
Originally posted by Sean
I believe it's Sheep gut?
they vary sean, I know some use sheep gut, some use beef intestine, etc... hahah, this is starting to sound like a menu at an asian restaurant. :D
Joanne 11-27-2002, 03:50 AM Eew.......I hate beef! Hmm......maybe I should just paint my racquet gold. :D
Tuokki 05-26-2005, 02:38 AM I have been wondering this question and now I would like to know your opinion..
My on sense says that stencil ink makes the string more slippery, and that's not good? Why so many non sponsored players use stencil ink logos?
Matt Parsons 03-16-2006, 11:54 AM Strings made of vectran are usually yellow in colour, as the natural colour of the vectran material is a light yellow, so not all coloured strings are dyed.
jerby 03-16-2006, 02:11 PM I have been wondering this question and now I would like to know your opinion..
My on sense says that stencil ink makes the string more slippery, and that's not good? Why so many non sponsored players use stencil ink logos?
you answerd that one all by yourself:p
LongReach 03-16-2006, 09:08 PM Yeah jerby he sure did!
It's so,even from a distance you can see what brand the "sponsored player" is using.
Companies who sponsor players want it 'Advertised" as much as possible.........to get their money worth.
Chilefeu 01-04-2007, 06:35 AM HI all,
After painting My racquets with the Yonex stencil, it makes my string bed less slippery.
I'm sure It's an avantage. I'll try my racquets tonight (as well as the SH800 men and will let you know how it goes ... :)
ryan123 01-15-2007, 08:20 AM you can download the yones stencil off the badminton england website for free and as for the ink, you canbuy it from most internet shops. :D
llpjlau 01-15-2007, 09:36 AM you can download the yones stencil off the badminton england website for free and as for the ink, you canbuy it from most internet shops. :D
is there a direct link to it? i've been looking on the badminton england website but cant find it.
Hierkommtnils 09-20-2007, 09:47 AM http://www.yonex.co.uk/Badminton/Product.aspx?ProdID=145
|
|